Subject: MAX Digest - 21 Nov 1997 to 22 Nov 1997
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 00:00:15 -0500
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There are 9 messages totalling 342 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. QT Atomic editor
  2. splitting hairs
  3. qtmusic 'n' more
  4. tx 81z sysex messages??
  5. "=" problem (take 3)
  6. wind_close in 3.0
  7. AiffPlayer + ComicRelief
  8. MAX Digest - 20 Nov 1997 to 21 Nov 1997
  9. Capture a foreground window

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Date:    Fri, 21 Nov 1997 22:50:32 -0800
From:    Peter Nyboer 
Subject: Re: QT Atomic editor

>Date:    Fri, 21 Nov 1997 18:47:13 -0500
>From:    Taylor Brady 
>Subject: QTMA Atomic Editor
>
>I've been playing around with the QTMA Atomic Editor discussed on this
>list back at the start of the month. Unfortunately, I can't seem to get
>my system to recognize the extension file the application creates --
>it's there in the extensions folder, but doesn't show up in the
>Extensions Manager, and its instruments aren't accessible to MAX through
>the "qtmusic" object.

David Z. asked a somewhat similar question in pvt., and my response is
generic enough that I should have posted it.  Here goes, with additions:

Here's what I have done so far w/ QTMA:
Running QT 2.5 (with the QT, QT Musical Instruments, and QT PowerPlug
extensions loaded) on Sys 7.5.5 on a PMac 7100/80 w/ 24 Megs.
I created an extension (which I'll call a "pallete"--I heard that term
someplace!) with the Atomic editor that contained a few instruments from
samples.  I put the pallete in the Extensions folder (no, it doesn't show
up in the Extensions Mgr.)  I then made a simple patch in Max using the
qtmusic object.  I used a "pick 1" message to bring up a dialog box that
allowed me to choose a pallete.  The top menu in the dialog box allowed me
to select either the "Best Music Synthesizer" or the "QuickTime Music
Synthesizer."  I selected the QT Music Synth.  A new pulldown menu appears
below that, alowing me to select a "category."  This is where I selected
the pallete.  The last menu allows me to select an instrument from the
pallete.

THE PROBLEMS:
I have to go through this stuff every time I open the patch, as there is no
way to save my choices made with the "pick" message.  I tried different
arguments in the qtmusic object and in the "pick" message with no success.

In addition, I experimented with editing the pallete after it was  loaded
as an extension in the System, and loaded in Max.  Needless to say, it
didn't work, but I thought it would be a worthwhile thing to determine.
Also in addition, too, as well, the qtmusic object disables any audio
input, so if you want to record audio or play audio through your sound card
at the same time--too bad!
ULTIMATELY:
It can work ok.  I made a sizeable pallete (3.5 megs), and it worked fine,
using multiple qtmusic objects and playing multiple sounds.
It would be nice to use OMS QT driver to play the QT instruments, but this
path doesn't allow for the changing of QT synthesizers, so that is totally
lame.

Ciao,

Peter

Peter Nyboer
pnyboer@ucla.edu
http://www.loop.com/~pnyboer/
home of Slambassador multimedia gallery--
including a full album of music!
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Driver, on safety needs

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Date:    Sat, 22 Nov 1997 03:14:40 -0500
From:    Nick Longo 
Subject: Re: splitting hairs

Nick Longo wrote:

>> <Pose to play quicktime videos and picts via
MIDI
>> <>
>> Hair?  I didn't even like that show in the 60's.  Broadway does San
Francisco
>> rock.
>>
>> ------------------------------

>Wow: aesthetic debate. We should have more of this

I don't think so.  Too much potential for bruised egos.  In fact, I
apologize
to the director of Hair.  I'd had a little too much whiskey.  For the record
though, I didn't like Jesus Christ Superstar either.

Nick Longo

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Date:    Sat, 22 Nov 1997 12:36:11 +0000
From:    Craig Macnaughton 
Subject: qtmusic 'n' more

a few random questions/statements,

1) I'm also having problems accessing my newly created qtmusic
extensions via the qtmusic object. I'm sure their is some easy way to do
it, but...

2) If anyone is interested in using sensors, a solution that has worked
(and is still working) for me is a Pavo MIDItools computer, a DIY box
that allows numerous configurations. The one I have is the 'custom
instrument', where you can have 64 on/off switches. It's pretty cheap if
you like building electronics. Their page is at . I
recommend it.

3) any word on a QuickTimeVR solution that doesn't require Director or
HyperCard? I guess it would just be nice to have the type of control
within MAX one has over a vanilla QT movie.

4) I have an ATI XclaimVR AV card which has pixel smoothing, so you can
take small QT movies and play them at full-screen mode in MoviePlayer
(or similar) with small amounts of distortion. Is their any way, through
MAX, to scale your QT movie to full screen?

take care,

Craig

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Date:    Sat, 22 Nov 1997 19:06:40 -0400
From:    Nicola Di Vito 
Subject: tx 81z sysex messages??

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Date:    Tue, 4 Nov 1997 17:00:59 -0800
From:    Peter Nyboer 
Subject: tx81z sysex messages??

Does anyone have a Max-based editor for the yamaha tx81z or at least a few
of the sysex messages?  I would like to be able to change some of the
parameters on the fly in a composition....

Peter.

Mr. Peter
Firstly excuse me for the long delay of my answer, but Y have been longly
out.
The greater obstacle Y found attending to sysex messages of Tx81Z descends
from the numerous mistakes the reference manual contain; for instance the
"performance parameters" have effectively this value: 00100 00 in binary
(16 in dec), the "remote switch" are 00100 11 in binary (19 in dec), and so
on. With the patch "SysEx" Y send you (that is effectively a poor thing),
you could set the parameters as you desire, and placing it in a Timeline
after having modifiied the output section, obtain what you had in your
mind. Hoping having been usefull to you
                                            Nicola

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Date:    Fri, 21 Nov 1997 23:34:33 -0800
From:    David Zicarelli 
Subject: Re: "=" problem (take 3)

Stephen Kay  writes (equals corrected):

>Aside from the _bugs_ in it I already fixed and told you about, the
>Close menu item is _NOT_ enabled when you run it in 3.0.

Sorry, I had long ago forgotten about this change between 3.0
and 3.5.

I think you have to implement the "close" method in an object in order
to get 3.0 to enable the Close menu item. The appropriate behavior
for "close" depends on the context of your object, but if you
aren't making an editor where you need to ask about saving the
changes, you can simply call freeobject() on your window. If you
want to keep the window around, wind_invis() will do the trick.

David Z.

...manually hitting carriage return at the end of a line for
about 20 years now...

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Date:    Sat, 22 Nov 1997 16:09:52 -0500
From:    Stephen Kay 
Subject: Re: wind_close in 3.0

>I think you have to implement the "close" method in an object in =

>order
>to get 3.0 to enable the Close menu item. The appropriate behavior
>for "close" depends on the context of your object, but if you
>aren't making an editor where you need to ask about saving the
>changes, you can simply call freeobject() on your window. If you
>want to keep the window around, wind_invis() will do the trick.

There is a close method implemented in the example.  It appears to =

be doing all you have said, but the Close menu item is disabled.

addmess((method)kalim_close, "close", A_CANT, 0);
void kalim_close(Kalim *x)
{
    EnterCallback();
    wind_invis(x->k_wind);
    ExitCallback();
}
Stephen Kay
=2E..now manually hitting carriage returns before 70 chars...
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Date:    Sat, 22 Nov 1997 22:36:30 +0100
From:    Isabelle Jenniches 
Subject: AiffPlayer + ComicRelief

Is there a possibility to change the pitch of a file you play in Eric
Singer's AiffPlayer?

 ij

 ps

concerning >nGl!sh = 3R-d ln-gwAj<<  (no native speaker
me) think this should be a place for a lil individuality, so I like it
-- it creates an odd'n funny itch, communicating in a sort of
comp.code

--and when Stephen has these  =signs at the end of his lines it might
be just s.th. in his settings-- or MAX Digest having
hickups???!

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Date:    Sat, 22 Nov 1997 22:34:39 +0200
From:    Peter Castine 
Subject: Re: MAX Digest - 20 Nov 1997 to 21 Nov 1997

Apologies for being tediously pedantic, but in case one or two people
have forgotten...

Johnny DeKam wrote:
> Lets see Command + Shift + F3
>gets the whole screen --

Command-Shift-3 (normal "3" character from top rank of keyboard, not a
function key, not the keypad).

>Isn't there a keystroke for getting just the
>foreground window?  (anyone know?)

Set Caps Lock, then as above.

>If not, there must be a 3rd party cdev
>or init which does the same thing.

I'm told Flash-It is a nifty little shareware Control Panel that also
lets you capture popped down menus and a few other things.

I think that since System 7.5 or so there have been some additional
screen capture tricks, but I can't remember and they aren't listed in the
Finder AppleGuide Shortcuts.

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Cheers,

Peter

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Date:    Sat, 22 Nov 1997 20:42:50 -0000
From:    Frederic Murray 
Subject: Re: Capture a foreground window

>When in doubt use the OS - might you try using the MAC OS screen capture
>utility with videoin to save your frame?  Lets see Command + Shift + F3
>gets the whole screen -- Isn't there a keystroke for getting just the
>foreground window?  (anyone know?)  If not, there must be a 3rd party cdev
>or init which does the same thing.

Try Snapz Pro from Ambrosia Software at ambrosia.com
It is a excellent screen capture!

Frederic Murray
Etudiant en musique
Universite Laval, Quebec
aae052@agora.ulaval.ca

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