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There are 11 messages totalling 299 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. movie, imovie
  2. MAX AUDIO
  3. multiple serial ports on a Powerbook
  4. QTMA editor
  5. pixel coordonates in Max [en][f] ?
  6. two serial ports on a powerbook (2)
  7. multiple serial ports on PB (2)
  8. aif loops in quicktime music
  9. atomic qtmusic

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Date:    Mon, 3 Nov 1997 00:10:45 -0800
From:    David Zicarelli 
Subject: Re: movie, imovie

Jeffrey Burns  writes:

>Everyone I know gets consistent crashes using imovie with big files.

I've already posted a message on the list saying why imovie
crashes with the window messages to thispatcher, and how to
work around it. To repeat: make your patcher window fullscreen
*before* adding an imovie to it, and don't send any messages
that mess with the title bar after it contains an imovie. Changing
the title bar changes the window that is used to display
an imovie, and imovies crash when they search in vain for the
now-deleted window in which they used to play. I have to delete
the window because a title bar (and a grow icon) are properties
assigned to the creation of windows, whereas the size of a
window and its screen position can be changed without having
to destroy the window and replace it.

>The new version of movie would do well to permit knocking of the title and
>scroll bars and permit positioning outside the limits of the screen on
>which it's running.

The first suggestion is not inappropriate but the second one strikes
me as completely antithetical to the Mac user interface. However,
it could be accomplished by modifying the newly saved window position
of the new movie object in a patcher file as text to the desired
coordinates. Then, don't open the movie file at home and save
it, since the window will be moved back onto the screen to be
visible.

David Z.

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Date:    Mon, 3 Nov 1997 00:10:25 -0800
From:    David Zicarelli 
Subject: Re: MAX AUDIO

Roland Cahen & Ruth Sefton-Green  write:

>Third parties must put pressure on the others two to make sure they won't
>destroy the only interesting software around at the moment.
>Thank you for asking IRCAM, Zicarrely and Opcode to think about us.

Je penserai a vous si vous ecrivez mon nom correctment.

David Z.

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Date:    Mon, 3 Nov 1997 10:29:10 -0000
From:    Nick Rothwell 
Subject: Re: multiple serial ports on a Powerbook

>         Are there any options for having two serial ports on a
> Powerbook?

I have a Sigma 7 serial port adaptor on my PowerBook 100. I don't
think this ever became a full commercial product; I have a prototype.

> I'd really like to have the option of running a Studio 4 using both serial
> ports to keep a SMPTE signal separate from all the MIDI stuff. Any
opinions
> would be appreciated.

Are you actually having performance problems with using one port? I'm
pretty sure I just used one port for my S4 using MTC and it was fine.

--
         Nick Rothwell, CASSIEL        contemporary dance projects
         http://www.cassiel.com        music synthesis and control

        "...but you? You've got a monkey on your back: dedication."

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Date:    Mon, 3 Nov 1997 12:51:31 +0100
From:    "sjoerd-w. bijleveld" 
Subject: QTMA editor

Hi Peter,
I'm also interested in using qtime with MAX. The latest version of the  QTMA
editor seems to work fine, but the (or my?) major problem is indeed that one
cannot edit the loop points. Using Resedit I managed to find the hex numbers
that define the beginning and end of the loop points, but still my sample
didn't loop. I guess there are more parameters to be set.  The program I use
to make my samples (Soundmaker formerly Soundeffects) has no option to set
loop points. The program Soundhack does provide information about loop
points
in a sample (AIFF fotmat), but when there are no loop points defined it says
'no loop points' and one cannot insert loop points. Do you (or somebody else
on this list) know a way or a program that can set loop points that the QTMA
editor does recognise?( I have a vague feeling that the AIFF format does
provide a convention for setting loop points... ).

Thanks in advance!

Sjoerd-W. Bijleveld

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Date:    Mon, 3 Nov 1997 10:45:38 +0100
From:    Le Quan Ninh 
Subject: pixel coordonates in Max [en][f] ?

------english version

Philippe Besse and me are working on a sound and visual installation where
a picture on screen would be replaced by another one pixel by pixel. We are
able to make the sound part of the installation with Max but widely
ignorant about the visual one...

Is it possible to realise it with Max ?
Did anyone write objects which give the coordonates of the pixels ?
Must we use a second Mac which lodges the pictures ?
What kind of interface we need ?

Thanks in advance for your patience...

-------version francaise

Philippe Besse et moi travaillons a une installation visuelle et sonore
dans laquelle une image a l'ecran est remplacee par une autre pixel par
pixel. Nous savons realiser la partie sonore de cette installation avec Max
mais restons largement ignorants concernant la partie visuelle...

Est-ce possible de realiser cela avec Max ?
Quelqu'un aurait-il ecrit des objects qui donnent les coordonnees des pixels
?
Devons-nous utiliser un second Mac hebergeant les images ?
Quelle interface devrions-nous utiliser ?

Merci pour votre patience...

Ninh

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Date:    Mon, 3 Nov 1997 10:04:42 -0600
From:    Otto Fajen 
Subject: Re: two serial ports on a powerbook

>        Are there any options for having two serial ports on a Powerbook?
>I'd really like to have the option of running a Studio 4 using both serial
>ports to keep a SMPTE signal separate from all the MIDI stuff. Any opinions
>would be appreciated.
>        Thanks,
>        Andrew Czink
>        earsay productions

interesting case.  i still use a powerbook 180 with my studio 4.  i had no
difficulty setting it up with both cables under oms 1.2.3, but when i
switched to oms 2.0 it was another matter entirely.  after much struggle and
no real help from opcode, i managed to get oms to see the studio 4 on both
cables.  however, in the setup screen, the studio 4 is identified not as
"studio 4-2 cables" as per the manual, but something like "studio 4
modem/printer".  anyway, opcode techs were unfamiliar with this combination
and were of little help.  i'm just thankful i managed to get it to work
under the new oms.  email me if you want to discuss this further.

otto

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Date:    Mon, 3 Nov 1997 16:43:10 -0000
From:    Nick Rothwell 
Subject: Re: two serial ports on a powerbook

> however, in the setup screen, the studio 4 is identified not as
> "studio 4-2 cables" as per the manual, but something like "studio 4
> modem/printer".

...which, I think, means it's running on one cable (on the machine's
"Modem/Printer" serial port). It might well be that the performance is
such that you can't immediately tell.

> i'm just thankful i managed to get it to work
> under the new oms.

*I'm* just thankful that I'm running with ancient versions of
everything under OMS 1.2.3...

--
         Nick Rothwell, CASSIEL        contemporary dance projects
         http://www.cassiel.com        music synthesis and control

        "...but you? You've got a monkey on your back: dedication."

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Date:    Mon, 3 Nov 1997 12:09:39 -0500
From:    David Bianciardi 
Subject: multiple serial ports on PB

On:       Sun, 2 Nov 1997 02:52:21 -0500

Greg Kuhn asked about multiple serial ports on a Powerbook

>And, I seem to recollect some early
>models (100's?) had two ports...

that's why my old 145B hasn't found a place on the trash heap.  2 serial
ports, no power manager problems, built like a tank, no MIDI problems, etc.

have you considered or has anyone else tried a PCMCIA serial port card?
OMS should see it if it's Comm Toolbox compliant, no?

good luck,

dave

<----[tech@idrc.com ]----[ David Bianciardi ]----[ gdb@interport.net ]---->

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Date:    Mon, 3 Nov 1997 17:31:46 -0000
From:    Nick Rothwell 
Subject: Re: multiple serial ports on PB

> >And, I seem to recollect some early
> >models (100's?) had two ports...

The PB100 had a single printer port. The Sigma-7 board went into the
internal modem bay and provided a second serial port.

> that's why my old 145B hasn't found a place on the trash heap.  2 serial
> ports, no power manager problems, built like a tank, no MIDI
> problems, etc.

I remember writing various articles on this when the first PowerBooks
came out. The 140/170 (and presumably the 145) have serial port
blackout problems causing buffer overruns on MIDI input. OMS finally
fixed this for the modem port, so a 140/170 has one MIDI port for
input and two for output (which is better than nothing).

> have you considered or has anyone else tried a PCMCIA serial port card?
> OMS should see it if it's Comm Toolbox compliant, no?

Does OMS, or did it ever, understand CTB tools? I thought the
requirements of MIDI (externally-clocked nonstandard baud rate)
precluded any CTB support.

--
         Nick Rothwell, CASSIEL        contemporary dance projects
         http://www.cassiel.com        music synthesis and control

        "...but you? You've got a monkey on your back: dedication."

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Date:    Mon, 3 Nov 1997 10:05:49 -0800
From:    Peter Nyboer 
Subject: aif loops in quicktime music

>QTMA recognized this nicely, but didn't allow me to edit the loop points.
>(I made these samples a
>while ago, so I'm not sure how I defined the loop markers--I'll figure
>that out later!).

I realized that I used Macromedia's SoundEdit 16 to set the loop points in
the AIFF file--out of curiosity, does anyone else know of other software
that does this??

Peter.

Peter Nyboer
pnyboer@ucla.edu
http://www.loop.com/~pnyboer/
home of Slambassador multimedia gallery
"a cellular phone, pepper spray, and maybe even a Smith and Wesson"--SUV
Driver, on safety needs

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Date:    Mon, 3 Nov 1997 23:24:23 -0400
From:    Craig Macnaughton 
Subject: atomic qtmusic

How do you access your new QTMA atomic instruments through the qtmusic
object? They don't seem to show up on my Catagory list.

Also, why is it called an 'Atomic Editor'?

thanks

Craig

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