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                                                           10/22/97 11:01 PM
Subject: MAX Digest - 21 Oct 1997 to 22 Oct
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There are 12 messages totalling 314 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. windows + notein\ctlin + folder (3)
  2. Max control of DAT (2)
  3. windows + kaleidoskope + invisible files.
  4. ADB I/O
  5. MAX Digest - 20 Oct 1997 to 21 Oct 1997
  6. send patcher window 2bak (2)
  7. Max music analysis
  8. the new guy

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Date:    Wed, 22 Oct 1997 00:59:35 -0600
From:    =cw4t7abs 
Subject: windows + notein\ctlin + folder

>>is it possibl 2 open 1 patcher window without a frame.
>
>Without a frame?  If you are referring to no scroll bars or window =
>
>title, then in Max 3.5.x, you can use the window messages to thispatcher
>to achieve this. You can also easily zoom such a window to full screen, =
>
>thereby covering the entire screen without any frame.

meant a window similar in appearance 2most
startup skreens.

when using oms
!s it possbl 2 set notein + ctlin
 2 listen to a specific channel

does folder only list files in the max directory _?
^ doesnt seem to reference the start up disk.
+ single smart quotes don.t seem 2work.

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Date:    Thu, 23 Oct 1997 04:39:02 +0100
From:    David Rodger 
Subject: Max control of DAT

Trip Khalaf wrote:
> Has anyone out there found a DAT player and CD player (not an internal
one)
> that can be controlled by Max ? If so, how about a patcher to do it.

I suppose that a DAT with the Sony 9-pin interface might be controllable if
you could fudge it at the Mac/MAX end.  OTOH, control of a CD player would
be better.

I tried to control a CD-ROM drive with a modified version of Eric Singer's
CDClipper patcher.  The latter is rather complicated so I ended up ditching
it.  What I was actually trying to do was to generate a sort of time code,
because CD frames come at 75 per second.  The problem is that the cd object
doesn't start the CD from the same position every time.  You can't really
synchronise it.  As I remember it, Roland Hemming (I think) said it's
because the CD-ROM extension behaves in an odd manner.

If you only need to cue up tracks or play small sections, CDClipper will
probably do the trick.

Regards, David

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Date:    Wed, 22 Oct 1997 03:47:08 -0400
From:    Roland Hemming <100414.2220@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject: Max control of DAT

Trip Khalaf wrote:

>Has anyone out there found a DAT player and CD player (not an internal
one)
>that can be controlled by Max ? If so, how about a patcher to do it.

Yes. You can control the Revox C221 or Tascam CD701 Cd players using the
serial object. I have done it with both with few problems. Unfortunately
they are both very expensive professional models.

Obscenely and outrageously expensive is the Studer Dat machine. This I have
serial controlled too. It has a MIDI socket on the back aswell, but when I
requested the protocol, an embarrasssed Studer rep admitted that it was
only there for show!

You can also control any of the Denon stuff as their 900 series CD players
and Minidisc players have serial input. There is probably a DAT player in
that range too.

All the above manufacturers are happy to release their serial protocols and
most of it is in the manuals anyway.

Steve Ellison wrote some software to control a Pioneer Dat machine.

An alternative is to use a MIDI to relay interface such as the Fostex 4020
or one of the Kenton electronics units to control the closed contact inputs
found on many professional playback devices.

Roland

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Date:    Wed, 22 Oct 1997 03:56:05 -0600
From:    =cw4t7abs 
Subject: windows + kaleidoskope + invisible files.

>>thereby covering the entire screen without any frame.

oopz. kaleidoskope interfered with the notitle + fullscreen msg.
hence the problems.

zo. does folder work -so that 4 ecsample. one kould chek for kaleidoskope
on startup disk
kontrol panels and turn off fullskreen and notitle for thispatcher _?
have only been able 2akses folders in the max direktory.

also.kan one specify attributes for files that max kan automatikally save.
for exampl kan one save a preset file that is invisible. since one kan read
invisible files in max.

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Date:    Wed, 22 Oct 1997 02:15:21 -0700
From:    Issac Roth 
Subject: ADB I/O

Has anyone used an ADB I/O box?

Anyone used one with Max?

http://www.bzzzzzz.com/BeeHive/ADB_IO/ADBIO_Intro.html

Issac

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Date:    Wed, 22 Oct 1997 07:04:16 -0600
From:    =cw4t7abs 
Subject: Re: MAX Digest - 20 Oct 1997 to 21 Oct 1997

kan one have max not ask 2save changes to a table.
setting the dirty flag doesnt do it.

+ the preset objekt seems to revert 2save with patcher.
even though that option is unchekd.

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Date:    Wed, 22 Oct 1997 07:58:19 -0600
From:    =cw4t7abs 
Subject: send patcher window 2bak

kan 1 send a patcher window 2the bak.
instead ov 2the front.

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Date:    Wed, 22 Oct 1997 09:28:51 -0400
From:    Chester Jankowski 
Subject: Re: windows + notein\ctlin + folder

>when using oms
>!s it possbl 2 set notein + ctlin
> 2 listen to a specific channel

Here's one way for ctlin (sorry =cw4t7abs, I forgot about your earlier
email):

max v2;
#N vpatcher 9 51 468 308;
#P comment 309 184 126 196617 1996 Chester Jankowski;
#P comment 309 98 100 196617 ctlinCJ;
#P comment 309 129 100 196617 lets you specify the channel and
controller# for ctlin;
#P newex 143 110 43 196617 ctlin 1;
#P newex 176 145 27 196617 == 1;
#P newex 176 176 30 196617 igate;
#P newex 5 51 74 196617 prepend enable;
#P newex 99 51 60 196617 prepend set;
#N comlet controller#;
#P inlet 99 27 15 0;
#N comlet controller data;
#P outlet 99 226 15 0;
#N comlet channel;
#P inlet 193 27 15 0;
#N comlet port;
#P inlet 79 27 15 0;
#N comlet toggle on/off;
#P inlet 5 27 15 0;
#P fasten 9 0 7 1 148 168 201 168;
#P connect 8 0 7 0;
#P fasten 7 0 3 0 181 203 104 203;
#P fasten 6 0 9 0 10 96 148 96;
#P connect 9 1 8 0;
#P fasten 5 0 9 0 104 91 148 91;
#P connect 4 0 5 0;
#P connect 2 0 8 1;
#P fasten 1 0 9 0 84 100 148 100;
#P connect 0 0 6 0;
#P pop;

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Date:    Wed, 22 Oct 1997 11:40:49 -0400
From:    Stephen Kay 
Subject: send patcher window 2bak

>kan 1 send a patcher window 2the bak.
>instead ov 2the front.

AFAIK, you cannot.  The only thing you can do is bring another window(s) =
to
the front, thereby effectively relegating the other window to the back.

>kan one have max not ask 2save changes to a table.
>setting the dirty flag doesnt do it.

If you check the "Don't Save" checkbox in the table "get info" window, th=
e
table will not ask you to save changes when you close the patcher it is i=
n.

Stephen Kay
-------- The MegaMAX Application Developer's Collection --------
 Full color 3D UI Objects for creating professional looking apps,
     Macintosh Interface objects, and other Max helpers.
-----------check out the demo on the MAX 3.5 CD----------------

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Date:    Wed, 22 Oct 1997 11:40:57 -0400
From:    Stephen Kay 
Subject: windows + notein\ctlin + folder

>=3Dcw4t7abs:
>meant a window similar in appearance 2most
>startup skreens.

The MegaMAX collection includes an object "aboutBox" which allows you to =
put =

up custom about boxes, splash screens, etc. which can remain on the scree=
n for
a certain period of time, or until a user clicks somewhere, etc.

>when using oms
>!s it possbl 2 set notein + ctlin
> 2 listen to a specific channel

AFAIK, other than the means shown in Chester Jankowiak's patcher (checkin=
g for
equality with a channel number and using a gate), there is unfortunately =
no =

real way to "set" a channel for a notein, ctlin, etc.  You can give it an=
 =

argument such as "notein a 12", but you cannot change the channel on the =
fly, =

although you can change the port.

Stephen Kay
-------- The MegaMAX Application Developer's Collection --------
 Full color 3D UI Objects for creating professional looking apps,
     Macintosh Interface objects, and other Max helpers.
-----------check out the demo on the MAX 3.5 CD----------------

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Date:    Wed, 22 Oct 1997 15:19:10 +0000
From:    Erick 
Subject: Max music analysis

Hi Folks,
        I'm trying to write a Max program that does simple harmonic
analysis.
Has anyone seen anything like this?
-Erick Emde

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Date:    Wed, 22 Oct 1997 16:17:05 +0000
From:    Craig Macnaughton 
Subject: the new guy

hey there guys,

i just picked up a copy of MAX 3.5 on the weekend, after using 2.5 a few
years ago. I can't wait to get started.

i noticed a few people ask about a QuicktimeVR object, and i'd like to
add my name to the list of people who would like to play with something
like that.

finally, i'd just like to thank everyone up front for any help they can
offer,
from this question to questions yet to come.

Ahh, it's good to be back with MAX.

take it easy,

Craig

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