10/11/97 11:00 PM
Subject: MAX Digest - 10 Oct 1997 to 11 Oct
1997To: Recipients of MAX digests 

There are 7 messages totalling 212 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. MAX Digest - 8 Oct 1997 to 9 Oct 1997
  2. C?:Multi-seg eternals and attributes
  3. arpeggiator
  4. Max 3.5 and System 8 answer (2)
  5. Eric Singers AiffPlayer
  6. vocal to MIDI


Date:    Sat, 11 Oct 1997 02:34:37 -0400
From:    Christopher Murtagh 
Subject: Re: MAX Digest - 8 Oct 1997 to 9 Oct 1997

Quote(s) from Peter Elsea :

>Katie F. Collins asks
>>please cancel my subscription to this list
>The proper way to get off the max list is to send the message
>signoff max
>The message "help max" will get you a list of other commands
>Don't forget to supress your signature line or you'll get a bunch of error
>messges back.

 If anyone has any questions on how to get unsubscribed, or any problems
with the listserv stuff,  please email me instead of the list.  For a
quicker response please email me at : and I should
get back to you later that day. My other address is still valid, it is just
that my wife downloads the mail from it at home quite often (as her account
also get forwarded there) and if I'm at school I won't see it until I get

>Finally, Mark Casey  asks about an FAQ. There isn't one that I am aware of,
>because it isn't in the nature of Max or this list that the same old
>questions come back all that much.

Mark also asked about a searchable archive of the list. I am working on
getting a searchable archive via any web browser, but things have been
delayed due to some server problems we are having here.  As soon as the CGI
stuff gets functional here, I should have it up.   At the same time I'll
put up a FAQ for listserv stuff.


Christopher Murtagh


Date:    Sat, 11 Oct 1997 00:53:03 -0700
From:    David Zicarelli 
Subject: Re: C?:Multi-seg eternals and attributes

Stephen Kay  writes:

>I've several objects which are multi-segment (as far as their 68k
>incarnation goes) . I recently was perusing the "attributes" of each
>segment (in CodeWarrior Pro 1.0; IDE 2.0), and I wondered if they
>were set correctly.

The settings of the first segment don't matter, because this
segment is copied out of its resource and locked down somewhere.
The other segments maintain their connection to the resource.
If code in these segments is going to be called (indirectly
through the first segment) at interrupt time, they should probably
be locked and not purgeable, although I have never heard of a
problem with an additional segment moving or disappearing

>BTW, for anyone who cares, CW Pro 1.0 (IDE 2.0) is awesome, in that you
>can have a single project file for your Fat and 68k versions and simply
>switch targets while compiling.

It also seems to compile much faster than previous versions, although
previous versions weren't exactly slow. Unfortunately, it's not
compatible with the now-unsupported Motorola PowerPC compiler plug-in.
So I continue to use both versions and can be heard swearing
every time I mistakenly double-click on a project I want to
work on in CW11, launching CW Pro and waiting for it to convert
the project and make a bunch of stupid files on my hard disk which
I promptly drag to the trash. I have such a hard life.

David Z.


Date:    Sat, 11 Oct 1997 01:29:55 -0700
From:    Peter Nyboer 
Subject: arpeggiator

Does anyone have a general purpose MAX arpeggiator you'd be willing to


- Ken

For general interest, there is an arpeggiating object in the MaxPac 2.0
collection in the Ircam FTP site.

Peter Nyboer
home of Slambassador multimedia gallery
"This is a fictional story with mostly facts in it."


Date:    Sat, 11 Oct 1997 01:43:25 -0700
From:    Jon Froines 
Subject: Max 3.5 and System 8 answer

>Date:    Thu, 9 Oct 1997 09:22:51 -0400
>From:    Bob Gluck 
>Subject: Re: MAX Digest - 7 Oct 1997 to 8 Oct 1997
>In a message dated 10/9/97 4:05:56 AM, you wrote:
><insert the master diskette in the drive BEFORE you run the installer.>>
>I wasn't aware that people were having trouble installing Max under System
>My difficulties have been about the conflict between the copy protection
>application and system 8. Opcode continues to promise a new key disk that
>corrects this problem, but so far I haven't seen any concrete results. Does
>anyone have newer information about this?
>Opcode (and others) has/have also noted that the copy protection will work
>correctly if installation takes place with an earlier system installed. The
>suggestion is to install system 8 after Max is on the hard drive. Having
>tinkered with system 8 for hours and hours to get everything working in a
>balanced way (I had removed the authorization for Max 3.5 before upgrading
>the system to 8.0 because in the past, I've had a terrible time losing
>authorizations of Opcode applications when upgrading system software), the
>idea that I might trash the system, reinstall 7.5 or 7.6 and then reinstall
>system 8 seems like a less than compelling or impressive idea.
>Bob Gluck
>Sheffield, MA

Well, here's the deal as I understand it.  The MAX 3.5.8 that you can
download needs to use the old install disk for authorizing.  Buying a new
copy of MAX from Opcode right now would get you the new key disk that is OS
8 compatible, as well as the CD-ROM of Max 3.5.8 that goes with THAT key
disk.  It's still 3.5.8, it just needs the new key disk to work.  You can
use the OLD key disk without much trouble by mering STARTING UP from a disk
that's OS 7.5.x or 7.6.x.  Startup from that drive (just stick in your old
unused system 7.X CD-ROM and start up from that if you haven't started
using it as a coaster yet) and then authorize the drive that's usually your
startup drive and/or the drive you're going to run MAX from.  You see, the
authorization program has trouble RUNNING under OS 8, but the copy
protection key, after installed, should work under OS 8.  The NEW copy
protection allows you to authorize any drive on your bus, and run MAX from
any disk on any bus as well, whether they're different disks, the startup
disk, not the startup dik, whatever.  Might be one reason they're going
through all the hassle to change it like this.

- JonYo (


Date:    Sat, 11 Oct 1997 05:21:52 -0700
From:    Issac Roth 
Subject: Re: Max 3.5 and System 8 answer

I was on the phone with Customer Support at Opcode today.
They have released a new version of the Max 3.5.8 key disk that works with
MacOS 8.
They also have a new version of the CD (3.5.8).

I believe you can simply call and ask, and they'll send you this new stuff.
That's what I did, and they were really nice about it.



Date:    Sat, 11 Oct 1997 10:56:15 -0700
Subject: Eric Singers AiffPlayer

Thanks Eric for letting me know your www site where I was able to
download your MAX AiffPlayer. Perhaps one day earlier than soon you will
issue the PPC-native version.

Of course I also downloaded  those freeBees you posted @ your great www
site. Great stuff and information at your site for a guy like me still
struggling to learn/use MAX.

Best regards from

Walter Sheluk/MUSIC PLUS


Date:    Sat, 11 Oct 1997 13:42:01 -0500
From:    Eric Rosenzveig 
Subject: vocal to MIDI

For vocal chord to MIDI, an excellent device, fast, precise, albeit a
little pricey is the MIDIVOX. We found the device to work perfectly in
performance - the only potential problem you might have being that in an
installation/multiple user setting a throat collar/sensor has to be shared
by participants.

Try writing Timothy Kelley who runs the company,  or
 Tel. in US 1-800-433-6434, or 1-713-973-2976.

Eric Rosenzveig


End of MAX Digest - 10 Oct 1997 to 11 Oct 1997