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                                                            9/30/97 11:00 PM
Subject: MAX Digest - 29 Sep 1997 to 30 Sep
1997To: Recipients of MAX digests 

There are 3 messages totalling 104 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. MAX Digest - 28 Sep 1997 to 29 Sep 1997
  2. Non-FAT objects (Was Digest blah... blah..)
  3. RAM, ROM, naming, and such

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Date:    Tue, 30 Sep 1997 08:41:12 -0400
From:    John Williams 
Subject: Re: MAX Digest - 28 Sep 1997 to 29 Sep 1997

Hi Maxers,
I just compiled a program that I have been writing for several months - it's
a editor/librarian for the Roland TD7 drum brain. I write my Max progs on a
Quadra because it's so much more stable than my PPC. Lo and behold when I
make the prog into an stand alone app I get loads of warnings about objects
that aren't FAT. LED, Multislider, Ubutton, Umenu etc.etc. Did I miss
something somewhere? like object updates or words of wisdom in the Max
Digest
about when these objects will be re-written ???. So now by using Maxplay
3.5.8. 68k I have an app that runs like a demon on the Quadra and like a
slug
on Valium on the PPC.
If you know anyone interested in a front end for the TD7 please contact me
Johnbrit@AOL.com.
Has anyone written a book or a paper on how to write scripts for the Lib
objects ? I wrote all my own patches for the above prog as the manual does
not adequately explain the ins and outs of using the Lib objects. Also they
do seem pretty limited.
About Opcode. Before I subscribed to the Max Digest, I tried to get help on
Max by phone, E-mail, carrier pigeon, smoke signals etc. Never got one
single
reply. They really give tech support their best shot on Max.........

John Williams.

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Date:    Tue, 30 Sep 1997 12:09:45 -0400
From:    Stephen Kay 
Subject: Re: Non-FAT objects (Was Digest blah... blah..)

>I just compiled a program that I have been writing for several months -
it's
>a editor/librarian for the Roland TD7 drum brain. I write my Max progs o=
n
a
>Quadra because it's so much more stable than my PPC. Lo and behold when =
I
>make the prog into an stand alone app I get loads of warnings about
objects
>that aren't FAT. LED, Multislider, Ubutton, Umenu etc.etc. Did I miss
>something somewhere? like object updates or words of wisdom in the Max
Digest
>about when these objects will be re-written ???.

All of the standard MAX objects, including all listed above, are FAT in
3.5.x.  It seems that perhaps you may be using some 3.0 objects instead.

How to tell?  Well, one way would be to open up a suspect object in
Res-Edit.  If you find a resource of type 'cfrg', then it is FAT.

Or, it could be that when you compiled the app you did not select the
correct target of "FAT" application in the application installer. In this=

case, the 'cfrg' resources are discarded when the app installer cleans up=

at the end. This seems most likely.  Try compiling again and check the
target options.

Stephen Kay =

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Date:    Tue, 30 Sep 1997 09:23:28 -1000
From:    Rex Brian Coggins 
Subject: Re: RAM, ROM, naming, and such

On Sun, 28 Sep 1997 22:30:18 -0500, Fred Collopy wrote:

> ROM should have been named RO-RAM. It is RAM! It happens not to be
> writable.

So then, my blank CD-ROM discs and EEPROM, Flash PROM and CMOS chips are
RAM? I always thought something was fishy about those names.

> Seek and latency make the amount of time to transfer a
> particular piece of information a function of where that information
> is located on the disk relative to the disk head's location.

A 120ms SIMM RAM has twice the latency of a 60ms one so should we call
the first one LRAM (less random access memory), SRAM (slower random
access memory) or NSFRAM (not so fast random access memory)?

Gota' SCRAM, Rex.

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