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Subject: MAX Digest - 13 Aug 1997 to 14 Aug
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There are 11 messages totalling 313 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. MAC World Expo Report: BeOS DSP Audio (2)
  2. nonlinear equations
  3. BeOS availability
  4. unsubscribe
  5. MACWor
  6. Can large numbers be worked with? (2)
  7. I-CubeX Standalone Programming
  8. Can large numbers be worked with (2)?
  9. Mac OS 8

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Date:    Thu, 14 Aug 1997 00:44:08 -0400
From:    Nick Longo 
Subject: Re: MAC World Expo Report: BeOS DSP Audio

<<>So now the Be is free?  And most of the software is free

<
Subject: Re: MAC World Expo Report: BeOS DSP Audio

Nick Longo asked:
>Wait a minute, free?

Others have written regarding the free-lunch aspect.

>        Didn't the people who wrote the BeOS try to sell it to
>Apple for several hundred million dollars?  Then didn't Apple break off
>negotiations because the price was too high?  And didn't they then buy the
>Next OS for four hundred million dollars instead?

I don't think price was the only issue (although it was certainly
important). But Apple also had to consider things like how well further
MacOS development would fit on top of BeOS/NeXTStep/Mach.

I have no idea what Apple's priorities on these issues was. There was
certainly a feeling of home-coming with the decision to go NeXT and have
Jobs back at Apple.

>And correct me if I'm
>wrong, but wasn't the BeOS written by the same guy who originally forced
>Steve Jobs out of Apple?

1) John Sculley was the CEO who levered Jobs out of Apple. He has nothing
to do with Be.

2) Jean-Louis Gasse=E9 was a top top exec at Apple under Sculley, but had
nothing to do with Jobs' departure. I'm not even sure he was at Apple at
the time Jobs left, he might have come just afterwards.

3) Gasse=E9 is president of Be, but he's not a developer and hasn't written
=
a
line of code for BeOS.

Now, if I've only spellt the French guy's name write, we should have the
record reasonably straight.

Cheers,

Peter

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Date:    Thu, 14 Aug 1997 08:02:31 -0500
From:    =cw4t7abs 
Subject: nonlinear equations

would anyone happen to know of a good way to
iterate nonlinear equations and import the results into max to
convert the results to midi.
thanks.

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Date:    Thu, 14 Aug 1997 07:13:27 LCL
From:    Paul Provost 
Subject: BeOS availability

Regarding BeOS availability:
    I understand that it will be on a CDROM bundled with the next (and
last) issue of MacUser magazine.  So if you're interested (as well you
should!), you can pick it up that way.  I saw what looked like a
_cool_ DSP processing toolkit a little while back on the web.  I can
probably dig up the URL if anybody is interested.  Looked kind of
CSOUNDish, but with a GUI!

Paul

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Date:    Thu, 14 Aug 1997 10:30:40 -0500
From:    Anthony Palomba 
Subject: unsubscribe

unsubscribe

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Date:    Thu, 14 Aug 1997 16:14:07 -0400
From:    Nick Longo 
Subject: Re: MACWor

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Subject: Can large numbers be worked with?

Hello All,
      Is it possible to do math in Max resulting in sums that total
more than a billion or trillion?  I tried a simple multiplication patch
and ended up with what can only be somekind of error.  (-negative
numbers etc.)  I could make a program to accomplish the same thing in
basic or something, but I want to customize the interface.  Also, Max
is the only programming language I've used in years.  Please let me
know what you think.

Thanks
Keay@hooked.net

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Date:    Thu, 14 Aug 1997 18:50:17 -0400
From:    Ken Mistove 
Subject: Re: I-CubeX Standalone Programming

Paul,

The bundled MAX software for the I-CubeX has it's share of quirks. I've
always had to tweek it to work properly.

In order for the MAXPlay apps to work, the I-Cube must be in "stand-alone
mode". You can set that from the options menu. If you can't get the I-Cube
to receive the data, try the following:

Open up and unlock the sub-patchers for the program(s). Change the midiin
and midiout objects so thay are referencing the OMS port for the I-Cube.
Lock the patch and run. It should work now. When I opened the sub-patchers
on my machine, the ins and outs were pointing to a different device. I hope
this helps.

Paul Hertz  wrote:

>I would be interested in hearing from anyone who has been working with the
>I-CubeX system, a version of the I-Cube interface with standalone
>capability thanks to a new ROM. Essentially one can put the I-CubeX
>interface into standalone (as opposed to Host mode, where it relies on MAX)
>and program the way its voltage inputs respond by sending out MIDI. I'm
>using the thang to respond to user presence, detected with various sensors,
>to trigger animation in MacroMedia Director. So far I cannot get the
>bundled software (3 MAXPlay applications) to send MIDI configuration
>information to it, though it receives MIDI just fine. I've had to set the
>parameters numerically with Sysex messages from MAX--a chore I'd rather
>skip.

Ken

Ken Mistove
kmistove@eclipse.net
http://www.geocities.com/~kenzak/
http://www.eclipse.net/~kmistove/

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Date:    Thu, 14 Aug 1997 19:08:57 -0400
From:    Stephen Kay 
Subject: Re: Can large numbers be worked with?

>Is it possible to do math in Max resulting in sums that total
>more than a billion or trillion?  I tried a simple multiplication patch
>and ended up with what can only be somekind of error.  (-negative
>numbers etc.

The limit for an integer in MAX is determined by the fact that ints are
passed as type "long" which is a 32-bit signed long integer having a rang=
e
of 2 to the 32nd power, centered around 0, which translates as
-2,147,483,647 to 2,147,483,648.  When you exceed the positive value, it
wraps around into the negative range, which is why you are seeing negativ=
e
numbers (which is expected behavior for computers, not an error).

Stephen Kay
------- The MegaMAX Application Developer's Collection --------
Full color 3D UI Objects for creating professional looking apps,
     Macintosh Interface objects, and other Max helpers.
-----------check out the demo on the MAX 3.5 CD----------------

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Date:    Thu, 14 Aug 1997 20:59:53 -0400
From:    Stephen Kay 
Subject: Re: Can large numbers be worked with (2)?

>The limit for an integer in MAX is determined by the fact that ints are
>passed as type "long" which is a 32-bit signed long integer having a ran=
ge
>of 2 to the 32nd power, centered around 0, which translates as
>-2,147,483,647 to 2,147,483,648.  When you exceed the positive value, it=

Sorry, correction:

-2,147,483,647 to 2,147,483,647

Stephen Kay
------- The MegaMAX Application Developer's Collection --------
Full color 3D UI Objects for creating professional looking apps,
     Macintosh Interface objects, and other Max helpers.
-----------check out the demo on the MAX 3.5 CD----------------

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Date:    Thu, 14 Aug 1997 20:17:32 -0700
From:    Keay Edwards 
Subject: Mac OS 8

Sorry to bother every one twice in a day, but I'll do it anyway.

I have just installed OS8 and am having problems with MAX 3.0.
Initially, after installing the new system, MAX would ask to be
re-authorized. Not a problem I thought, upon slotting this disk, my
machine would lock up (crash with an error type five or one depending
upon wether extensions were on or off).
So, I reinstalled MAX.  Re authorization went without a hitch, but now
I must reauthorize every time I launch the application.

What is happening here?

Thanks in advanced.
Keay@hooked.net

PS The largest number I seem to be able to calculater in MAX seems to
be in the billions.  An inherent feature of the software?

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