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Subject: MAX Digest - 14 Jun 1997 to 15 Jun
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There are 6 messages totalling 194 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. OMS, MIDI and life as we know it (3)
  2. Max/SCII
  3. Recorded Outputs
  4. About delta-timing codification

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Date:    Sun, 15 Jun 1997 14:14:16 +0930
From:    Peter Mcilwain 
Subject: OMS, MIDI and life as we know it

Hi Max people,

have just been reading a back log of posts and I caught a mention of OMS
and Max which got me thinking. In our studios here I've been running Free
MIDI instead of OMS which has been working fine and to my surprise even
Max copes well. This is because Free MIDI supplies an OMS emulator. I choose
Free MIDI because it has a more flexible
interface and allows software which controls our MIDI Time Piece to work.

Now I have just discovered a snag - the new version (I think) of Galaxy
isn't fooled by FreeMIDI's OMS emulator, and refuses to load. So it's back
to OMS and if I want to program the MIDI Time Piece I load a different
extension set - ok so far as it goes but I'm finding that these sorts of
issues are happening more and more. Our studios are set up for multiple
users who have varying degrees of experience and the more reconfiguring
that has to go on the more chance of things going wrong - I should mention
that we are haveing smilar difficulties with the Pro Tools system.

It seems to me that the only way forward here is that where common system
functions like MIDI and DSP etc. are used the most desired solution would
be for Apple to provide the modules. This is the case with printing and
networking and I see no reason why MIDI should be any different. What is
happening is that the Mac OS is fragmenting into divergent sub systems which
vary depending on your software - if this trend continues our studio will
be very difficult to opperate and I suspect that we are not the only
ones.

Perhaps the Max users should collectively push for some standards in MIDI
driver software or ultimately urge Apple to create a driver standard which
third party developers have to adhear to.

What do you recon?

Peter McIlwain
Performing Arts Technology Unit
University of Adelaide
Australia
pmcilwai@arts.adelaide.edu.au
http://www.pa.adelaide.edu.au/~pmcilwai

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Date:    Sun, 15 Jun 1997 10:26:17 +0100
From:    Joseph Hyde 
Subject: Re: Max/SCII

Gil Wasserman wrote:

>I'm thinking of getting a SampleCell II card for my 7100/80. Can anyone
>tell me how Max runs it, via OMS, MIDI manager or directly (is there a
>driver around for the SCII) and what is the best solution?

I've used SCII a fair bit with Max, always with OMS, which works fine.  I
guess you probably could also use it with MIDI manager, but I wouldn't...

Don't know of a driver, though would be very interested if you find one,
especially if it could access any of the SC's parameters as well as just
'playing' it.

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Joseph Hyde
Dartington College of Arts
Totnes
Devon TQ9 6EJ

Tel: [+44] (0)1803 861661
Fax: [+44] (0)1803 863569
Email: j.hyde@dartington.ac.uk
WWW: http://www.dartington.ac.uk/~j.hyde/

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Date:    Sun, 15 Jun 1997 09:22:22 -0500
From:    "Brian K. Shepard" 
Subject: Re: OMS, MIDI and life as we know it

Peter McIlwain wrote:

>Hi Max people,
>
>have just been reading a back log of posts and I caught a mention of OMS
>and Max which got me thinking. In our studios here I've been running Free
>MIDI instead of OMS which has been working fine and to my surprise even
>Max copes well. This is because Free MIDI supplies an OMS emulator. I
choose
>Free MIDI because it has a more flexible
>interface and allows software which controls our MIDI Time Piece to work.
>
>Now I have just discovered a snag - the new version (I think) of Galaxy
>isn't fooled by FreeMIDI's OMS emulator, and refuses to load.
>
>Perhaps the Max users should collectively push for some standards in MIDI
>driver software or ultimately urge Apple to create a driver standard which
>third party developers have to adhear to.
>

This is an issue with which I have been dealing for some time.  I too,
prefer to use FreeMIDI, but find that I must now switch back and forth
between OMS and FreeMIDI.  The basic problem is that the OMS Emulator that
comes with FreeMIDI is equivalent to the version 1.x of OMS.  Now that most
newer "OMS-savvy" applications require the OMS version 2.x, the FreeMIDI
emulator doesn't always work.  I have had extensive conversations with the
folks at Mark of the Unicorn about either adopting the more wide-spread OMS
or at least making a compatible emulator.  Unfortunately, they seem either
unable or unwilling to comply.  Given Apple's current state of disarray, I
doubt they will be willing to tilt at one more windmill.  Perhaps those of
us in the music industry should, instead, put more pressure on the music
software manufacturers.  After all, we are the ones that use and recommend
their products.

-Brian

Dr. Brian K. Shepard
University of Oklahoma
School of Music
bkshepard@ou.edu
http://www.ou.edu/music/BKS

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Date:    Sun, 15 Jun 1997 10:07:53 +0100
From:    Nick Rothwell 
Subject: Re: OMS, MIDI and life as we know it

>It seems to me that the only way forward here is that where common system
>functions like MIDI and DSP etc. are used the most desired solution would
>be for Apple to provide the modules. This is the case with printing and
>networking and I see no reason why MIDI should be any different.

Oh, I do.

Printing: huge market. Networking: huge market. MIDI: tiny market.

>Perhaps the Max users should collectively push for some standards in MIDI
>driver software or ultimately urge Apple to create a driver standard which
>third party developers have to adhear to.
>
>What do you recon?

I reckon it was done with Apple's MIDI Manager back in 1988. Look what
happened to that. And I can really see Apple paying attention to MAX users.
I mean, look what attention Opcode pays to us, and it's their bloody
product.

         Nick Rothwell, CASSIEL        contemporary dance projects
         http://www.cassiel.com        music synthesis and control

             years, passing by, VCO, VCF, and again, and again

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Date:    Sun, 15 Jun 1997 12:19:51 -0400
From:    Bob Gluck 
Subject: Re: Recorded Outputs

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I regularly do this, too, since I rely on the AV Mac's DAC and have no other
sound card. I must say, though, that I'm not crazy about the sound quality.
Don't know whether this is a function of the speed of my processor (50 MHz),
or the quality of the DAC's or of the audio jacks.

Bob Gluck
Sheffield, MA
http://home.aol.com/Rjgluck

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Date:    Sun, 15 Jun 1997 20:51:23 +0200
From:    Nicola Di Vito 
Subject: About delta-timing codification

I should be very grate if you could explain me the principle of the
"variable-lenght quantity" used to write in the Standard MIDI files the
values
of delta times and how to translate them in normal hexadecimal notation. I
pray you also, to send me a routine to read and write the delta values in
Standard 0 MIDI files,  eventually using Think C and considering my low
skillnes in programming.

                                          Thanks

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