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                                                             6/6/97 11:00 PM
Subject: MAX Digest - 5 Jun 1997 to 6 Jun
1997To: Recipients of MAX digests 

There are 7 messages totalling 161 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. ...or is it just me... (2)
  2. MAX Digest - 3 Jun 1997 to 4 Jun 1997 (2)
  3. Max 3.5.4 download
  4. Freeze w/ timeline object (2)

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Date:    Fri, 6 Jun 1997 00:49:31 -0400
From:    Matthew Davidson 
Subject: ...or is it just me...

Has anyone had any problems (like spontaneous crashing about 5 seconds
after Max is loaded) with System 7.6.1 and OMS 2.3.2? I get consistent
behaviour with any 3.x.x version of Max. Extensions loaded are 7.6.1 base
+ OMS

thanx!

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Date:    Fri, 6 Jun 1997 01:17:50 -0400
From:    Dan Jamele 
Subject: Re: MAX Digest - 3 Jun 1997 to 4 Jun 1997

In a message dated 6/5/97 12:42:30 PM, you wrote:

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Emile,
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haven't
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today.  It is ver easy to write MAX patchers that send out the Sys ex for
our
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Date:    Fri, 6 Jun 1997 10:17:26 +0300
From:    Ken Gregory 
Subject: Re: Max 3.5.4 download

Hey people! I had the same corruption problems as others with the Max
3.5.4. download.It is now fixed. I downloaded and unstuffed it without any
problems today, June 6. Thanks to David Z. for replying and acting on it so
quickly.

Take care,
ken

Ken Gregory     kgregory@pangea.ca
704-138 Portage Ave. East
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada R3C 0A1
ph. 204-942-7510  fax 204-942-1555

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Date:    Fri, 6 Jun 1997 10:00:05 +0200
From:    Tom Mays 
Subject: Re: ...or is it just me...

>>Has anyone had any problems (like spontaneous crashing about 5 seconds
after Max is loaded) with System 7.6.1 and OMS 2.3.2? I get consistent
behaviour with any 3.x.x version of Max. Extensions loaded are 7.6.1 base
+ OMS
<<

I have.  when i re-opened the studio setup, then quit oms setup, max
worked again. I attributed this to a break in the max/oms connection
due to a previous max crash.

tom

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Date:    Fri, 6 Jun 1997 09:52:00 BST-1
From:    Ian Waugh 
Subject: Re: MAX Digest - 3 Jun 1997 to 4 Jun 1997

Nick Rothwell wrote:

> Complain to Opcode and Pace about the copy protection.

So you've had luck with Pace, Nick?

Cheers,
Ian

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Date:    Fri, 6 Jun 1997 08:40:53 -0500
From:    Taylor Brady 
Subject: Re: Freeze w/ timeline object

David Zicarelli  writes:

> Several users have reported problems with saving timeline files.
> I've tried to duplicate them but I too am at the point of
> desperation since it always seems to work for me. If anyone
> has a recipe for reliably making a bad timeline file, please
> share it with me. This is in reference to the 3.5 timeline
> object, the 3.0 version I've written off completely.

After another several hours of experimenting with it, I've found that
the problem seems to be more specifically related to the graphical
etable and efunc editors than to the timeline itself.  I've now saved
several timelines containing only number and message boxes, some of them
quite large, and haven't had any problems reopening them.  Meanwhile,
even the smallest timeline file containing etables and/or efuncs seems
to be completely unstable.

Strangely (significantly?) enough, opening these files for the first
time after a save works just fine.  It's only on the second and later
attempts that crashes and freezes happen.  At first I thought this might
simply mean that the files were still in cache memory -- I was doing
quick "quit-and-reopen" tests.  However, the same odd effect takes place
even when I shut down the system, reboot, relaunch MAX, and reopen the
files, or when I quit MAX, run several hours' worth of other
memory-intensive apps, and then return to the file in question.  I don't
know whether this clarifies anything or just throws another wrench into
the works, but there it is, for what it's worth.

Taylor Brady

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Date:    Fri, 6 Jun 1997 09:42:44 -0500
From:    Taylor Brady 
Subject: Re: Freeze w/ timeline object

Well, scratch that last bit about timelines w/ etables and efuncs vs.
timelines without.  I guess the latter just took a bit longer to become
corrupted, since they are now freezing up as well.  So much for that
hypothesis . . .

Taylor Brady

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