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Topics of the day:

  1. Serial Data Objects
  2. PB 1400 CD control
  3. problems coding outlets
  4. re Phonemes - clarification
  5. re. Phonemes (2)
  6. Phonemes
  7. Unsubscribe
  8. Transparent Pics

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Date:    Wed, 14 May 1997 00:08:08 -0500
From:    Steve Salani 
Subject: Serial Data Objects

Can anyone recommend the best way to send and receive arbitrary data bytes
on the Mac's serial ports?  The MIDIIN and MIDIOUT objects seem to have a
problem with data values near 0FFh.  The SERIAL object has the
inconvenience of requiring polling to retrieve received data, and also
appears to be capable of buffering only 64 received data bytes.  Are there
some other objects available that do not have these limitations?
Alternately, is the source code available for any of these objects?

Thanks,

Steve
Forte Music
Austin, TX

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Date:    Wed, 14 May 1997 00:31:35 -0700
From:    Carl Stone 
Subject: Re: PB 1400 CD control

>For CD audio?  Or data?  For audio, have you tried the 'cd' object, or
>doesn't that work on the 1400?

For audio. The 'cd' object doesn't work, at least on my machine running MAX
3.0 . 'cd' seems to poll the scsi bus and therefore can't find the player.

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Date:    Wed, 14 May 1997 09:59:32 +0100
From:    Nick Rothwell 
Subject: Re: problems coding outlets

>I deciphered enough to code and compile a
>working object with 8 inlets and 1 outlet, based on experiments with
>sample code provided with the SDK.

Interesting. I've always written objects with a single inlet and multiple
outlets, since it's much easier to dispatch by symbol on one inlet than
provide several inlets for symbolic data, and since it's more convenient to
use multiple outlets than prepend symbols to distinguish messages for one
outlet.

I've got lots of code sitting on the old SE/30 at home. Email me in a week
or so if you don't hear from me.

         Nick Rothwell, CASSIEL        contemporary dance projects
         http://www.cassiel.com        music synthesis and control

             years, passing by, VCO, VCF, and again, and again

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Date:    Wed, 14 May 1997 11:33:10 +0100
From:    Jem Finer 
Subject: re Phonemes - clarification

My previous message -

>Just wondering if anyone knows of the whereabouts of the complete set of
>phonemes for the speaking of English - I'd like to get hold of them if
>they are sitting around somewhere - else I'll have to do it myself !

I meant to say recordings of rather than dictionary descriptions !

Thanks,

Jem Finer

Kentish Town
London NW5
finer@easynet.co.uk

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Date:    Wed, 14 May 1997 17:44:24 +0100
From:    Joseph Hyde 
Subject: re. Phonemes

I'd also be very interested in any replies to this question, and have
another of my own:

Does anyone know of a way to really 'get inside' the Speech Manager or
PowerTalk, in a more sophisticated way than the 'speak' or 'talk' objects;
so that one could actually change the pitching of the voices, or even their
timbral characteristics? Has anyone done any interesting work using speech
with Max?

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Joseph Hyde
Dartington College of Arts
Totnes
Devon TQ9 6EJ

Tel: [+44] (0)1803 861661
Fax: [+44] (0)1803 863569
Email: j.hyde@dartington.ac.uk
WWW: http://www.dartington.ac.uk/~j.hyde/

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Date:    Wed, 14 May 1997 09:59:29 -0800
From:    Richard Zvonar 
Subject: Re: Phonemes

At 8:00 PM -0800 5/13/97, Jem Finer  wrote:

>Just wondering if anyone knows of the whereabouts of the complete set of
>phonemes for the speaking of English - I'd like to get hold of them if they
>are sitting around somewhere - else I'll have to do it myself !

I assume you're looking for acoustical data for the synthesis of vowels and
consonants?

I suggest you hie yourself to the nearest university library and prowl the
phonetics section.  University College in London or Cambridge University(
if convenient) might be good.  Peter Ladefoged has several books which
might be helpful, particularly his "A Course in Phonetics" or " Elements of
Acoustic Phonetics."   "The Principles of the International Phonetic
Association" (IPA, 1961) is the standard reference for written
transcription of speech sounds, and "Visible Speech" by Potter, Kopp and
Koop (Dover, 1966) is a comprehensive source for sonograms of spoken
English.

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Richard Zvonar, PhD                              zvonar@LCSaudio.com
(818) 760-8055 voice/fax                         71501.3342@compuserve.com

                          http://www.well.com/~zvonar

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Date:    Wed, 14 May 1997 14:33:53 +0100
From:    John Greenland 
Subject: Unsubscribe

Unsubscribe.

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Date:    Wed, 14 May 1997 22:25:02 +0100
From:    "K-) Peter" 
Subject: Transparent Pics

Stephen
        Thanks for the info.
        I have no problem making a transparent background in photoshop,
but as soon as I export it as a Pict it gets white corners. "I" then
can't amtransparent as teh pic underneath is gradinet filled and no
combination of XOR, etc. seems to work. I can use the Max OVAL obejct or
make my backround solid and it may work, but I don't want to.
        So have you made any of your own odd shapes pits and got Max to
treat their outside "borders" as transparent andif so HOW ?
        Your new MASK option sounds like just teh job ! Let me know when
it's ready and I'll buy the lot !! Do you take credit cards ?

        Incidently in Photoshop the Magic Wand will select a range of
colours/shades, or you could select the white background and invert the
selection and then delete the background to transparent. Alternatively
if you start with a NEW picture with a transparent background, it's not
there already ;-) Just that it becomes white when you flatten and export
as a Pict :-(
        K-)
        Peter.

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Date:    Wed, 14 May 1997 18:14:41 -0400
From:    Eric Singer 
Subject: Re: re. Phonemes

You can change certain characteristics with my 'talk' object, including
pitch (and a bunch of others which I can't recall).  If you look at the
Inside Macintosh references on Apple's web site, you can get a better idea
of what the speech mgr's capabilites are.  Unfortunately, it is not
super-sophisticated - no real timbral manipulation stuff.  Furthermore, I
don't think Apple has ever published a "make your own voices" spec, which
would really be useful.

Eric

 On Wed, 14 May 1997, Joseph Hyde wrote:

> I'd also be very interested in any replies to this question, and have
> another of my own:
>
> Does anyone know of a way to really 'get inside' the Speech Manager or
> PowerTalk, in a more sophisticated way than the 'speak' or 'talk' objects;
> so that one could actually change the pitching of the voices, or even
their
> timbral characteristics? Has anyone done any interesting work using speech
> with Max?
>
>
> *******************************
>
> Joseph Hyde
> Dartington College of Arts
> Totnes
> Devon TQ9 6EJ
>
> Tel: [+44] (0)1803 861661
> Fax: [+44] (0)1803 863569
> Email: j.hyde@dartington.ac.uk
> WWW: http://www.dartington.ac.uk/~j.hyde/
>

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*    Media Research Laboratory   *
*       New York University      *
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