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Subject: MAX Digest - 4 May 1997 to 5 May
1997To: Recipients of MAX digests 

There are 4 messages totalling 149 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. presets and nesting
  2. Poly Object plus (long)
  3. MAX Digest - 1 May 1997
  4. copy protection failure / Max 3.5

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Date:    Mon, 5 May 1997 16:59:11 +1000
From:    Jeremy Yuille 
Subject: presets and nesting

Hi,
I'm wondering if anyone can help me with a (preset) problem?

I have a patch (3.0) that uses a preset to remember settings within some
patcher-in-windows, by connecting the 'included' output of the preset to an
input of the sub patches.
this is done so that i can save everything in one file with a 'write'
command to the preset, and load it in with the 'read' command.

when sending both these commands to the preset I get all the proper
dialogues etc.
the problem is that when I 'read' a 'written' file into the preset, It
shows the little black squares to indicate preset entries, but it doesn't
send any info to the patcher-in-windows.

Is this because I shouldn't really be using the preset in this way?
If so, is there any other type of object that can save the settings of
sliders, ints, and led's that are within a number of sub-patches, into one
file?

thanks in advance

ps. it's for an 808 emulator

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Date:    Mon, 5 May 1997 17:40:10 +0100
From:    "K-) Peter" 
Subject: Poly Object plus (long)

Sorry to repeat these questions !
        But any response to my Poly object bug (in v3.0) ? Is this known
or remedied in 3.5 or is it just my 7200 and any workarounds to split
polyphony to separate objects ?

>>> 1)  The poly object is unreliable. It counts 1,2 quite happily, but
often jumps to 5 or 6 instead of 3, and then jumps again at 6 to 7,
usually. Sometimes it's fine. I've tried it raw with Notein to Poly
and a print object and it definitely usually sometimes (well hey it is
software) slips !! Any ideas ! The MIDI going in is fine with no double
triggering or otherwise, as the rest of my programs can work fine (i.e
with an echo thru). I am using a velocity off sending keyboard (K2000)
but the Xnotein object didn't seem to change the Poly object antics.

>>> 2) I found the folder object to get a file directory, but how can I
select the PATH graphically with a file selector too ? Many thanks for
the Get Info tip to make the object right output text. Or how can I test
for what the users CD-ROM path is called ?

>>> 3) Still IMPORTANT.  Is there anyway of removing the Maxplay menu
when you compile the program as standalone or is it always going to look
like a Max program. Does the pure Ircam one do the same thing ? I'd
really rather not have the Maxplay shell showing - even if it costs me
money !

>>>> 4) How would YOU split incoming polyphonic chord information from a
NoteIn object so that you could treat each say velocity value
differently ? I'm having a bit of a conceptual problem with combining
and extracting lists.

End of repeating myself. End of repeating myself. End of .... ;-)

        In terms of programming efficiency, are there any major pitfalls
in Max'ing; i.e. are Patchers more efficient processor wise ? Anything
to avoid or use in preference ?

        I thought the USA was the RICH country. I can't believe you guys
whining about $15 bucks. I'm a poor Brit [yeah the weather's fine and of
course I know him it's a very small island ;-)] but I have no problem
with paying small running costs. I just wish the UK distributer knew
it's ass from it's elbow.
        As a would-be software developer I can fully appreciate the
small but significant costs of sending out multiple freebies on a grand
scale. Ideally there would be NO copy protection but you only have to
look at the newsgroups to see the epidemic THEFT going on to see why !

        Happy Max'ing
        K-)
        Peter

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Date:    Mon, 5 May 1997 10:18:52 -0700
From:    Steve Anderson 
Subject: Re: MAX Digest - 1 May 1997

        Reply to:   RE>MAX Digest - 1 May 1997 to 2 May 1997

>On another note does anyone know where I could get a heart rate sensor =
that
>copulds plug into an I-cube to be used with Max?
>Ted Scalzo@AOL.COM

Pasco Scientific (http://www.pasco.com  (916) 786-3800 or (800) 772-8700 =
10101 Foothills Blvd., Roseville, CA 95678 or sales@pasco.com) has a =
heart rate sensor that clips onto your ear lobe or little finger (it =
works optically, by absorption in NIR) that costs $55 part# CI-6543A. It =
has a DIN-8 plug that goes into the Pasco scsi interface and puts out an =
analog signal. It requires +5v and/or bipolar 12v supply (usually gets =
from interface). Convert to digital to just get timing info. We have a =
couple we use in the lab. It seems to work OK. I am happy with Pasco =
stuff.

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Date:    Mon, 5 May 1997 14:31:03 -0700
From:    "W. Andrew Schloss" 
Subject: copy protection failure / Max 3.5

Another key disk failure report. This one is on a Duo 2300, which has no
built-in floppy, so using a key disk to launch Max while on the road is
*really* a pain.

Installation was completely standard.  Except it failed and I lost all 3
installs.  The following was displayed:

"Error while validating the authorization count.  I/O error (bummers).
Result code: -36"

I like how it says bummers.  I would have said fuck.

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W. Andrew Schloss, Ph.D.
School of Music
University of Victoria
Victoria, BC CANADA V8W 2Y2
(604) 721-7931
aschloss@nero.uvic.ca

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