4/22/97 11:00 PM
Subject: MAX Digest - 22 Apr
1997To: Recipients of MAX digests 

There are 9 messages totalling 243 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. MAX Digest - 20 Apr 1997 to 21 Apr 1997
  2. 68K vs. PPC (2)
  3. Listserv renewal (2)
  4. the testimonial
  5. Product advice
  6. MAX Digest - 21 Apr 1997 to 22 Apr 1997 - Special issue
  7. Input problems


Date:    Wed, 23 Apr 1997 02:50:31 +0800
From:    Computer-aided Algorithmic Re-composition

Subject: Re: MAX Digest - 20 Apr 1997 to 21 Apr 1997

Dear Sir,

   I would like to ask if there is any easy way to let MAX input a
multi-track MIDI file as input and then play it back.

   I tried "mtr" but after accepting "read", "mtr" doesn't "play"!
   I tried using "mfscan" and then feeding the channel-event to "mtr" but
still, the "mtr" is recording the delta time between message, so all
notes from mfscan mixed into one.

   What can i do? i think it should be a simple task ......

best regards
Leo Wong


Date:    Tue, 22 Apr 1997 18:29:39 +0100
From:    Nick Rothwell 
Subject: Re: 68K vs. PPC

>>Anyone know whether the PB520 PPC upgrades are still available? Just
>>curious at this stage.
>This is how you can make yourself really miserable. I bet native PPC
>Max 3.5 will run more slowly on one of those upgraded Powerbooks
>than 3.0 on a 520.

Ah. Not a particularly fast PPC in the upgrade, then?

Yours, reporting from technology's trailing edge, etc...

         Nick Rothwell, CASSIEL        contemporary dance projects        music synthesis and control

             years, passing by, VCO, VCF, and again, and again


Date:    Tue, 22 Apr 1997 15:25:35 -0400
From:    Eric Singer 
Subject: Re: Listserv renewal

Is this absolutely necessary?  Can't you unsubscribe the offending
addresses (by looking at the extended Internet headers if necessary)?  It
seems that I need to resubscribe to the list every few months for some
reason or another, which is getting tiresome (e.g. I just realized I have
been unsubscribed for about the last month).

On Tue, 22 Apr 1997, Christopher Murtagh wrote:

> Greetings Fellow Maxers,
>  Within the next day or so, I will be renewing the MAX listserv. What this
> means is that I will be removing all names from the list and asking you to
> re-subscribe if you wish to continue receiving the Max Digest. My reason
> for this is because many people have had their mail forwarded to non
> existant accounts, and for some odd reason, I am getting the
> Mailer-Daemons.  Seeing as I'm not particularly fond of getting 10-15
> Mailer-Daemons a day, I have decided to renew the list.
> So, please remember the following:
> 1) Don't re-subscribe until you have received the notice from the
> 2) Please don't have your listserv stuff forwarded to another address,
> will cause problems for you also. For example if you try to post something
> to the list from your other email address (and not the one you are
> subscribed under) the listserv will reject your message.
> Thank-you for your time.
> Sincerely,
> Christopher Murtagh
> (Max Listserv Owner)

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*          Eric Singer           *
*    Media Research Laboratory   *
*       New York University      *
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Date:    Tue, 22 Apr 1997 14:31:25 -0700
From:    James McCartney 
Subject: Re: Listserv renewal

At 12:25 PM -0700 4/22/97, Eric Singer wrote:
>Is this absolutely necessary?  Can't you unsubscribe the offending
>addresses (by looking at the extended Internet headers if necessary)?  It
>seems that I need to resubscribe to the list every few months for some
>reason or another, which is getting tiresome (e.g. I just realized I have
>been unsubscribed for about the last month).

I agree. This is cutting off the arm because of a cut on the finger.
For not spending a few minutes of his time to remove the offending
addresses, hundreds of us have to spend a few minutes resubscribing.
Some people might not realize they have been cut off for a while.

   --- james mccartney
If you have a PowerMac check out SuperCollider, a real time synth program:


Date:    Tue, 22 Apr 1997 13:50:20 -0700
From:    Charles Baker 
Subject: Re: 68K vs. PPC

I guess I must be a true dinosaur, then:
I ran on a MacPlus (4Meg) until Max3.0,
when I inherited a very cheap MacII (snicker)
I am not up to Max3.5, obviously.
I was not gonna go for a PPC machine: I would
prefer to buy a Linux box next. But I would hate
to loose Max. Any thoughts on Max-DSP on these
fast machines, David? Or does IRCAM and/or Miller
own too much of that to include in the commercial
product? I would be extremely happy witha Max/DSP
implementation that was not fully "real-time" on some
processors... I have faith there will be faster
 processors in the future.

Just some thoughts...


Date:    Tue, 22 Apr 1997 17:14:18 -0500
From:    Fred Collopy 
Subject: the testimonial

Nick responded to David Z.:

>>Something that might reassure Nick even more is for someone who
>>has a fast PPC machine to tell him that Max 3.0 runs better on it
>>than a 68K machine.
>You mean, like a testimonial...?
>Roland Hemming is already trying to persuade me along these lines with 3.5.
>I thought that 3.0 wasn't at all PPC-native? I don't even want to think
>about whether I'd need to recompile all my own THINK C externals...

I am using a fast PPC and Max 3.5 runs very nicely on it (as did 3.0). I
worried *a lot* about making the conversion to CodeWarrior from Think. As
it turned out it was no problem. Much nicer environment, and I got the
bonus of being able to use Steven's interface objects...very nice.



Date:    Wed, 23 Apr 1997 07:30:23 +1000
From:    David Rodger 
Subject: Product advice

Steve Anderson wrote:

> Try Creative Solutions (800) 367-8465.

If anyone is going to post contact details like this, would you please put
a regular phone number as well. Many people on the list do not live in the
U.S. and cannot access 1-800 numbers there.  Of course, where they exist,
e-mail addresses are cheaper!

Thanks, David


Date:    Tue, 22 Apr 1997 19:24:05 -0400
From:    Uncle Max 
Subject: Re: MAX Digest - 21 Apr 1997 to 22 Apr 1997 - Special issue

The MAX Guide

Things have begun to taper off a bit. I haven't started chasing people
down yet because I have other activities that are taking up a lot of
time. In any case, I would like to have about thirty to fifty more
people submit before I start turning the info into a stand alone
application. I haven't decided which software I'll ultimately use. I
will hopefully be ready to upload at the beginning of June. It's funny,
almost none of the regulars have submitted or very few comparatively. If
anyone knows roughly how many people are on this list, I'd be curious to

Read the guide lines:

Send your info to:

"The more submissive you are, the easier my job is"


Date:    Tue, 22 Apr 1997 19:38:55 -0400
From:    Tommy DOG 
Subject: Input problems

Trouble with my random music generators:
I am currently working on an input patch for conducting, triggering and
in general interacting with the application, it's moving along but I'm
having a weird problem. I am not able to get Max to recognize any
incoming MIDI data. At first, I thought that maybe I was just doing
something stupid because I've been doing this random music thing which
doesn't call for any input from MIDI. I checked my OMS set up, I tried
running Performer, CAMusic and Phonogramme with no resulting problems. I
even looked at the tutorials.... Nothing!!!!  All I want to do is to
play a MIDI note and have it trigger an event, Max wants no part of it.
Max shows no sign that it is even receiving any outside information. I'm
stumped, I know it's some little thing that I've over looked.
The tech info: Quadra 650 (40 megs), current versions of OMS & Max, MIDI
Time Piece II, various controllers (we'll stick with an ESQ-1) and
numerous modules.
Please help,


End of MAX Digest - 22 Apr 1997