3/27/97 12:00 AM
Subject: MAX Digest - 25 Mar 1997 to 26 Mar
1997To: Recipients of MAX digests 

There are 7 messages totalling 177 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. STEIM Stuff
  2. MAX Digest - 23 Mar 1997 to 24 Mar 1997
  3. some problems and the timeline
  4. 3.5.1 (2)
  5. mapping pitches?
  6. Single serial port


Date:    Wed, 26 Mar 1997 00:12:29 -0500
From:    David Crandall 
Subject: STEIM Stuff

On Tue, 25 Mar 1997, Joseph Hyde wrote:

> I'm between two visits to STEIM in Amsterdam, the developers of LiSa.
> fantastic! Try to get hold of the new commercial version (1.1) - much
> better than the demo, and it only costs $200.  I'm also keen to use the
> program with Max, but was told they don't make the best of bedpartners.

Since there seemed to be several replies re: STEIM products, lemme ask
this-- has anybody put Steim's BigEye, Lick Machine or Sensorlab products
through the paces, or know how much they cost?  I've got the BigEye demo
(sort of a software version of Very Nervous System) but haven't had time
to try it out.  And I'm still waiting to hear back from the Steim guy I

I think the limitation on BigEye is you need a whole entire Mac to run the
thing (then pipe the MIDI to another machine), but since I'm at a school,
we have Macs coming out our ears, whereas VNS or iCube seem to be
perceived by the powers above as more "specialized"...  (I would then just
have to make sure my installation concept has room for the sound of
*several* cooling fans...)

BTW if anybody's curious, the Steim address is:


Date:    Tue, 25 Mar 1997 23:43:57 -0600
From:    Steve Galante 
Subject: Re: MAX Digest - 23 Mar 1997 to 24 Mar 1997

Re: new splitting numberbox ?
>If you run the input to the number box through a message box containing
>'set $1', it will display the input without outputting it.

better yet: run it through prepend "set".



Date:    Wed, 26 Mar 1997 00:50:42 -0500
From:    "Mark H. Wong" 
Subject: some problems and the timeline

  Im using 3.5 and have been trying to use the ^ caret symbol as the startup
volume for a search path for a file, unsucessfully, when i load up the
help, that as well brings up an error can't find file. . etc. . Is there a
work around for this?
  Also, im using the timeline function and the tiCmd right outlet is suposed
to bang when the end of an event is passed, however I can't get it to work.
 There is a start bang, and a message sent (im using the i argument) but no
end bang as far as i can tell.
  One other thing about the timeline, has anyone found a way to get messages
to easily be placed?  There seems to be a lot of functionality missing in
timeline object as a whole, such as having a following line across all
as the timeline is played, a millisecond start point of objects that are
nudged into place by arrow keys, also locking message box limitations over
entire track.  To add these functions, would I have to have another timeline
object coded?


Date:    Tue, 25 Mar 1997 23:18:11 -0800
From:    David Zicarelli 
Subject: 3.5.1

Ladies and Gentlemen,

I just checked the Opcode web site and the Max 3.5.1 updater is
there, at

There are three files. Max3.5.1.sea.hqx contains the new applications.
Max 3.5.1NewFiles contains updated external objects and help files.
MaxPlay 3.5.1.sea.hqx contains the new MAXplay application.

You have to replace the externals and help files yourself.

David Z.


Date:    Wed, 26 Mar 1997 08:54:29 +0100
From:    "Dr. K@rlheinz Essl" 
Subject: Re: mapping pitches?

Spigot  wrote:

> Being new to MAX, and not knowing anyone else who uses it, my question
> are: Is there an easier way?  Pitch class routines must be important for a
> lot of people, how is this kind of thing usually done?  Is there a better
> way to optimize performance speed?

Take a look at the harmony functions of the "Realtime Composition Library"
which  can be download from:

More informations can be obtained under:

Hope that helps,

Dr. K@rlheinz Essl
SAMT - Studio for Advanced Music & Media Technology
Bruckner-Konservatorium Linz / Austria

     Visit the MindShipMind - an interactive multimedial Web Oracle



Date:    Wed, 26 Mar 1997 16:14:37 +0100
From:    Roland Cahen & Ruth Sefton-Green 
Subject: Single serial port

Answer to Martin Gotfrit 

Tom Igoe wrote:
>Speaking of which, how do you manage to get around the single serial por=
>I used to have a 280c, and could never get Max to recognize that single
>port for use with the serial object...

With Chooser off, minimum extensions, it works fine. ( I use a Studio IV,
OMS, 7.5.2 MacOS)


Don't forget to shut OMS modem and printer connection in the OMS SETUP.
Then the serial port of a portable Mac is buy default Printer (Serial b).
I SEND an example of emission an reception patch.

Roland Cahen
Professeur de
musique =E9lectroacoustique
83, Rue du Faubourg Saint Denis
F75010 PARIS
Tel pers: (33) (0)1 47 70 12 61
Tel ENM Montb=E9liard 03 81 99 39 60


Date:    Wed, 26 Mar 1997 10:16:32 -0800
From:    Martin Gotfrit 
Subject: Re: 3.5.1

Just got 3.5.1 stuff:
ahh, counter is fixed!  Thank you very much!
Also thanks to Roland Cahen for the serial port examples.


Martin Gotfrit * Assistant Professor, Music Area
School for the Contemporary Arts, Simon Fraser University
604 291 3517 * fax 291 5907 *


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