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Subject: MAX Digest - 7 Mar 1997 to 8 Mar
1997To: Recipients of MAX digests 

There are 2 messages totalling 57 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. max & internet
  2. _counter object

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Date:    Sat, 8 Mar 1997 04:59:15 -0800
From:    Issac Roth 
Subject: Re: max & internet

> I communicated over TCP networks with a similar object to the TELNET
> object.  I've used the UDPSend and UDPReceive objects (less reliable than
> telnet because packets are not guaranteed to get to their destination,
more
> similar to http protocol).

Just for the record, to be strict, this is incorrect. The HTTP protocol runs
on top of TCP, not UDP. If you want to use a layer model, HTTP is one layer
up
from the transport protocol, which is TCP in this case. To prove this to
yourself, use a TCP client like telnet to connect to port 80 of a
web-serving
machine and send some typical HTTP requests.

What you were probably referring to, however, is the fact that HTTP doesn't
send acknowledgements back (over TCP, still) when it's received something,
which is similar to the way that UDP works at the packet level.

> I've had great success with them, we even wrote
> unix code to speak back and forth to the UDP objects.

I did this once too, and I'd encourage you to try it.

> >>* New Objects *
> >>
> >>      * wc--client for connecting multiple MAX users together
> >>      on the internet
>
> I would love to hear from someone who's used the wc client, I haven't
> upgraded yet.

I've been meaning to write a portable version of the wc server for a while,
and make some running copies available for people to use for testing.
Haven't
gotten there yet though. Sigh.

Issac

PS - That first paragraph made me think that it would be easy to write a
max-based web-browser. Hmmm. Maybe a patch could connect to a server, and
grab
another patch, and run it...

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Date:    Sat, 8 Mar 1997 20:34:54 +0100
From:    "" 
Subject: _counter object

I finally received the update to MAX3.5 only to find that the _counter
object doesn't output 0 out the right-middle outlet after it leaves its
maximum while counting up (for example:  _counter 1 3 --- on 3 it outputs 1
and then stays on 1).
Any cues?  What am I doing wrong?
Dave

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