2/19/97 12:00 AM
Subject: MAX Digest - 17 Feb 1997 to 18 Feb
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There are 4 messages totalling 130 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Newbie Maxer delurks....
  2. Risset's Disklavier pieces
  3. I-Cube Info?
  4. A silly question.


Date:    Tue, 18 Feb 1997 06:11:50 -0400
From:    evening 
Subject: Newbie Maxer delurks....


I've just gotten into programming with Max - I've made it through the
tutorial and I'd like to be able to implement sysex commands thru Max
patches. I have a grasp of hex.   Can anyone recommend a book(s) that can
walk me through the "logic" of sysex messages? Thanks in advance...

Wishing that I had stayed awake in my CompSci classes...

John Wieczorek


Date:    Tue, 18 Feb 1997 12:27:23 +0100
From:    dudas 
Subject: Risset's Disklavier pieces

Roby Steinmetzer writes:

>I'm planning to perform Jean-Claude Risset's "Duet For One Pianist" & the
>"Etudes" in the near future.
>Now the Max window tells me that Mr Risset's patches require some external
>objects I don't have in my Max library.
>I checked at the usual download places but without succes.
. . .
>Could it be that these externals are part of an earlier version?

Dear Roby,

As far as I can remember, the only "missing" object should be the "INT"
object which is just an older version of the standard built-in "int".  The
"INT" object is a leftover from earlier days -- Max 1.0 very probably --
which was retained in version 2.0a40 for compatibility purposes, and which
can still be found in Opcode versions up to Max2.1.2 after which time it
was (finally) removed once and for all.

The difference between "int" and "INT" is that "INT" has two outlets... an
integer out the right and a bang out the left.  (As you might expect, the
same goes for "float" and "FLOAT").

Here's an abstraction which can be used to replace the missing INT object:

[Cut it out, paste it into a blank text file, save it with the name "INT"
(without the quotes) and Max will open it up as a patch.]

max v2;
#N vpatcher 50 40 186 241;
#P newex 35 63 27 196617 int;
#P inlet 52 41 15 0;
#P inlet 35 41 15 0;
#P outlet 35 114 15 0;
#P outlet 52 114 15 0;
#P newex 35 87 27 196617 t b i;
#P connect 5 0 0 0;
#P connect 4 0 5 1;
#P connect 3 0 5 0;
#P connect 0 0 2 0;
#P connect 0 1 1 0;
#P pop;

All of the 'new, '_1 stuff that gets posted in the Max window MIGHT be
related to the fact that the INT is missing...

However, if that's not the case, these other "missing objects" and various
error messages might have something to do with a change in file format
somewhere along the way. (?) I remember I had to re-install Max2.1 (or
2.1.2) from the master disks, open the Risset patches and save them again
before being able to open them in Max 2.5.2 / Max 3.0. (I know it doesn't
make any sense, but I did it nonetheless, and it worked.)

Hope you know someone who's kept their old master-disks lying around, and
that they're still readable and there is at least one install left.
Otherwise you might be in really deep.
(Another disatvantage of copy-protection.)


P.S.: A note of historical interest:
Just for the record, Although the above-mentioned  Max2.0a40 was the last
commonly used IRCAM version of Macintosh Max, I did once find a version
called "Max2.0a53 with cheese" jammed between the shelves way in the back
of a dusty cupboard. This "cheesy" version seems to an FPU version of alpha
40, and is probably Miller Puckette's very last "in-house" version of
Macintosh Max.  By the time 2.0alpha60 came zooming along, David Zicarelli
had already taken over the wheel...


Date:    Tue, 18 Feb 1997 04:06:44 -0800
From:    Issac Roth 
Subject: I-Cube Info?

Hey Folks,

I'm trying to get in touch with the makers of the I-Cube. It seems the
infusionsystems website is not available. Anyone have contact info?

Thanks for your help,



Date:    Wed, 19 Feb 1997 12:24:19 +0800
From:    Leo WONG Wing-yan 
Subject: A silly question.


   I know it is a primitive question, but I really don't know how to do
it. (plus i was too lazy to read the manual thoroughly)

   Which object can i used to display the key, time signature of a MIDI

   Thank you for your attentions.

Best regards
Leo Wong


End of MAX Digest - 17 Feb 1997 to 18 Feb 1997