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There are 7 messages totalling 173 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Installing MAX 3.5 (3)
  2. 3.5 in England
  3. 3.5 in Australia
  4. Stripping 68k and CP
  5. looking for externals

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Date:    Sun, 16 Feb 1997 22:45:47 -0800
From:    David Zicarelli 
Subject: Re: Installing MAX 3.5

"Dr. Karlheinz Essl"  writes:

>I'm a bit puzzled... Is there a
>
>        Max68K3.5
>version on the installation disk of MAX3.5? The only things I found are
>        MaxFAT3.5
>        MaxPlay68K3.5
>        MaxPlayFAT3.5
>but I'd prefer not running a unneccesary big FAT version (which seems to
>crash more often) on my 68040 based PowerBook 190.

There is such a version, but you won't see it when installing on a
68K machine.

The reason is that we decided 68K users don't need the 68K
only application because it's only raison d'etre is running
with 68K-only externals on a PowerPC. If saving a megabyte of
disk space is of critical importance, this configuration
can be changed. Speak your peace now however.

There is absolutely no technical reason why a FAT application
will crash more than a 68K-only application. The 68K knows
nothing of fatness, that's why you can take a FAT application
and run it on a Mac plus running system 6.

David Z.

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Date:    Mon, 17 Feb 1997 16:49:05 +0000
From:    Nick Rothwell 
Subject: Re: 3.5 in England

>You'll be glad to hear that you can't order it directly from the States
either
>as that would be Opcode 'stealing' a sale from MCM's exclusive UK
dealership!

You can always open a US post office box and get it shipped there by
Opcode. That's how I managed to get one of the MAX upgrades after waiting
several months for it from MCM. (2.5.2 I think.)

         Nick Rothwell, CASSIEL        contemporary dance projects
         http://www.cassiel.com        music synthesis and control

             years, passing by, VCO, VCF, and again, and again

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Date:    Tue, 18 Feb 1997 06:56:52 +1000
From:    David Rodger 
Subject: 3.5 in Australia

To all Australian MAX users:
Music Link sent me a flyer about MAX 3.5 days after the shipping
announcement on this list.  Of course, whether this translates into
actual delivery at this point is another matter.  But my e-mail to them
indicated that they were going to have very soon.

Better than the UK, it woudl seem.

Regards, David
musdr@lure.latrobe.edu.au
http://farben.latrobe.edu.au/d_rodger/

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Date:    Tue, 18 Feb 1997 06:59:37 +1000
From:    David Rodger 
Subject: Stripping 68k and CP

Jeremy Yuille wrote:
> I have seen some software called Strip 68k/PPC which will 'strip' a FAT
app
> of the unwanted code.

Does this sound to the rest of you like something that could screw up the
copy proctection?  Or something on which it might refuse to authorize?

Regards,
David Rodger
musdr@lure.latrobe.edu.au
http://farben.latrobe.edu.au/d_rodger/

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Date:    Mon, 17 Feb 1997 19:49:48 +0100
From:    "Dr. Karlheinz Essl" 
Subject: Re: Installing MAX 3.5

Jeremy Yuille ("the lurker") left his safe position as he wrote:

> I have seen some software called Strip 68k/PPC which will 'strip' a FAT
app
> of the unwanted code.

I downloaded it from

        ftp://ftp.alumni.caltech.edu/pub/woody/strip.hqx

and stripped away the PPC-code from MaxFAT3.5 which resulted in a much
smaller file (830 kB instead of 1,7 MB). It seems to work on my PowerBook
190 - until now, I did not had any single crash...

I wonder what MAX' lord and master David Z. would have said if he knew
that...

Thanks,

Dr. Karlheinz Essl
SAMT - Studio for Advanced Music & Media Technology
Bruckner-Konservatorium Linz / Austria
www:   http://www.ping.at/users/essl/index.html

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Date:    Mon, 17 Feb 1997 22:09:03 +0100
From:    Roby Steinmetzer 
Subject: looking for externals

I'm planning to perform Jean-Claude Risset's "Duet For One Pianist" & the
"Etudes" in the near future.
Now the Max window tells me that Mr Risset's patches require some external
objects I don't have in my Max library.
I checked at the usual download places but without succes.

Here is a list of the missing externals though I'm not sure if it is
complete:

INT
'new
'_1
'_8
'_13
'_15
'_16

I'm working with version 3.0 (still waiting for 3.5....)
Could it be that these externals are part of an earlier version?

Thank you for any help.

Roby Steinmetzer
Luxembourg, Europe

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Date:    Mon, 17 Feb 1997 22:16:18 -0500
From:    Stephen Kay 
Subject: Re: Installing MAX 3.5

David Z. writes:
>The reason is that we decided 68K users don't need the 68K
>only application because it's only raison d'etre is running
>with 68K-only externals on a PowerPC. If saving a megabyte of
>disk space is of critical importance, this configuration
>can be changed. Speak your peace now however.

Saving a megabyte of disk space on my PBook is almost always of critical
importance.  I'm forever down to my last 2 megabytes and looking for stuff
to throw away.  I vote for a 68k only version of 3.5. - anyway, there's
plenty of room on the CD :-)

Stephen Kay

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