1/19/97 12:00 AM
Subject: MAX Digest - 17 Jan 1997 to 18 Jan
1997To: Recipients of MAX digests 

There are 6 messages totalling 132 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Max3.5 size, OMS?, older objects FAT?
  2. Program listings (2)
  3. HELP!
  4. Max List Archive?
  5. Yikes! 3.5 patch-cord mutiny


Date:    Sat, 18 Jan 1997 00:49:00 EST
From:    Greg Kuhn <0003939581@MCIMAIL.COM>
Subject: Max3.5 size, OMS?, older objects FAT?

         Nick Rothwell asked on Jan 10:

"How is RAM usage compared to 3.0?"

RAM: based upon the Max window available memory display, with NO
start-up folder.

Max 3.0 = 885K

MaxFat3.5 = 1125K

He also asked:

"Does MAX 3.5 require OMS 2.x, or could I still use 1.2.3?"

Don't know, but it does require either OMS or Apple MIDI Manager... no
internal MIDI driver any more.

I'm interested in an answer here too.

Also, it appears that Max3.0 patches remain 3.0 files until they are
saved as collectives out of the MaxFat app.

So how exactly does backward compatability work?  For instance, Steve
Ellison's _sense object.  In 3.5 can it be used in a Fat standalone?


Date:    Sat, 18 Jan 1997 08:01:20 -0500
From:    Jeremy Bernstein 
Subject: Program listings

What exactly are we to do with these interesing lists of code?  Sorry to be
so ignorant...

#P connect 9 0 0 0;
#P connect 4 0 0 0;
#P connect 10 0 9 0;
#P connect 5 0 4 0;
#P connect 7 0 0 0;
#P connect 8 0 7 0;
#P connect 6 0 8 0;
#P connect 6 1 10 0;
#P connect 6 2 5 0;
#P connect 3 0 6 0;
#P connect 2 0 6 0;
#P connect 1 0 6 0;
#P pop;



Date:    Sat, 18 Jan 1997 07:38:35 +0000
From:    Tod Fiste 
Subject: HELP!


I have problems with the lib object.  I have been told that there were
fixes made to the lib object and that it is available for downloading
at FTP.IRCAM.FR   However, every time I try to login to that site I get
the message:
"Your site is denied access due to abuses of this service."

I have tried several other sites (,,
and Opcode's website) but either they don't have the update (lib-update)
or it's under a filename I don't connect with lib-update.

Please, please, someone tell me where I can get this file!  BTW, Opcode
has been no help at all other than to direct me to this list.  It's very
possible that the answer to my problem is one stupid little download
away, and I can't get it.  It's driving me nuts!  Please help!!!!


Tod "I'm not normally this crazed" Fiste


Date:    Sat, 18 Jan 1997 13:28:05 -0800
From:    Art Simon 
Subject: Max List Archive?

I seem to recall that there is an unofficial Max List Archive
somewhere.  I would greatly appreciate it if someone would post the full
address of this site.
-Art Simon          


Date:    Sat, 18 Jan 1997 19:51:00 EST
From:    Greg Kuhn <0003939581@MCIMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Program listings

Use the text to make a patcher.

>From Max save a blank untitled patch (i.e., select
New Patch) as new.text.thing...... open new.text.thing
as text (open as text). Type in or paste in the afore-
mentioned script, save, and open as a patcher.

In other words, this kind of text file is a patch in
text format.


Date:    Sat, 18 Jan 1997 20:39:34 -0600
From:    Steve Galante 
Subject: Re: Yikes! 3.5 patch-cord mutiny

Just fired up my copy of 3.5 and lo and behoild I've got the same problem.
I can, however, generate a patch cord without segment turned on; just can't
lose it once its there.  I've got a Centris 650 running 7.1. I also am
still running OMS 1.2.3. because the new version is at this point playing
havoc with my studio and I don't have time yet to work it out. Could this
be the cause?

Anybody else experiencing this?

Thanks, Steve


End of MAX Digest - 17 Jan 1997 to 18 Jan 1997