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Subject: MAX Digest - 7 Jan 1997 to 8 Jan
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There are 12 messages totalling 368 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. problems with new thispatcher
  2. Max Sysex Checksum Question
  3. if object (2)
  4. cd control (2)
  5. MAX Digest - 3 Jan 1997 to 4 Jan 1997
  6. Help! Max crashing with lib obj
  7. the if object
  8. ISEA97 - Chicago
  9. MAX Digest - 6 Jan 1997 to 7 Jan 1997
 10. Slides projector control?

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Date:    Tue, 7 Jan 1997 21:06:06 PST
From:    "Patrick T. Rost" 
Subject: problems with new thispatcher

sending a "dispose" message to a thispatcher caused the patcher to disappear
and
"check failed: zgetfn (boxvis): corrupt object" and
"check failed: egetfn (setport): corrupt object"
Anyone else have this or similar problems?
Patrick T. Rost

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Date:    Tue, 7 Jan 1997 21:24:38 PST
From:    "Patrick T. Rost" 
Subject: Max Sysex Checksum Question

I know this road...
If the patchnumber and "O2" are static, then you can use an expr-type
function
to compute the checksum:
sxformat 240 ...(whatever).../ is data+patchnumber+O2 / 247
where the is... statement is the checksum byte.
If the patchnumber and "O2" are dynamic then adjust as follows...
sxformat 240 ...(whatever).../ is $i1 + $i2 + $i3 / 247

Before you do this, try adjusting the start and end byte of the checksum
 function to include the data, patchnumber, and O2.

Hope this helps.

If you want, I'll send you an example that I was working on when I had a
Roland
M-VS1.

Patrick

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Date:    Tue, 7 Jan 1997 22:08:01 -0800
From:    Jaime Heilpern 
Subject: if object

I really don't like the if thing.

I like to do the "==" like things in the object box with a gate.

try this. hope it helps/works.

max v2;
#N vpatcher 50 41 450 341;
#P newex 129 182 36 196617 gate 2;
#P number 111 214 35 9 0 0 0 3;
#P number 158 214 35 9 0 0 0 3;
#P newex 118 161 27 196617 + 1;
#P newex 154 139 28 196617 >= 2;
#P newex 136 116 27 196617 t i i;
#P number 135 95 35 9 0 0 0 3;
#P number 171 95 35 9 0 0 0 3;
#P connect 7 0 6 0;
#P connect 7 1 5 0;
#P connect 3 0 4 0;
#P connect 0 0 3 1;
#P connect 2 1 3 0;
#P connect 2 0 7 1;
#P connect 1 0 2 0;
#P connect 4 0 7 0;
#P pop;

jaime

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Date:    Tue, 7 Jan 1997 22:10:57 -0800
From:    Richard Zvonar 
Subject: Re: cd control

On Tue, 7 Jan 1997 15:43:01 Joel Ryan  wrote:

>Does anyone have any experience controlling multiple
>SCSI CD-ROM players via Max?
>
>I need to build an installation to run for a month doing
>automated mixing of 6-8 channels of sound material. These could
>be ordinary audio type cd's or ones with AIFF files. Some of my
>students reported problems trying to control more than one
>scsi device.  Perhaps some players have a problem problem with scsi id#?

The main difficulty I've encountered is in mixing Apple CD-ROM players with
other models, presumably a driver conflict.  Stick to all Apple drives and
it might work.

______________________________________________________________________________
Richard Zvonar, PhD                              zvonar@well.com
RZ Cybernetics                                      zvonar@LCSaudio.com
11640 Amanda Drive                            CIS: 71501,3342
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                        http://www.well.com/~zvonar

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Date:    Wed, 8 Jan 1997 09:09:48 +0100
From:    Roby Steinmetzer 
Subject: Re: MAX Digest - 3 Jan 1997 to 4 Jan 1997

>>Subject: Microtone
>>
>> I don't remember who sent this message, but I tried this site and I found
>> nothing there. Am I doing somthing wrong?
>>Where can  I find the Tamburo font?
>> thank you, Nikos
>
>Hello Nikos,
>
>have you tried the Upload-folder at 128.255.208.37 or the
>submissions-folder at ella.mills.edu. I guess it's still sitting there
>because I just uploaded it.
>The Tamburo font is included in the microtone folder.
>
>Georg Hajdu

Perhaps you made the same error that I did first:
The correct URL is ftp://128.255.208.37, not http://128.255.208.37

Roby Steinmetzer

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           CHARIVARI
Music and Sound for Multimedia
 http://www.ip.lu/~charivari/

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Date:    Wed, 8 Jan 1997 09:46:03 +0100
From:    dudas 
Subject: Re: Help! Max crashing with lib obj

>I just got Max a couple of days ago and I'm having problems with it
>locking up my Mac.
>It happens consistently when I try to edit a patch that I have captured
>in the Librarian function window.

Could be a bug in the lib object itself.  David Zicarelli debugged it once
upon a time and left an update which you should be able to find either at
the IRCAM ftp site:
ftp.ircam.fr/pub/IRCAM/programs/max-patches68k/updates/lib-update.sea.bin
or probably also at the uiowa site which I can't rattle off the top of my
head.

While you're there, you might want to also pick up the mtr object update
(mtr-update.sea.bin), since the version that comes with 3.0 does not work
properly either.

(If this does not solve the crashing max mystery, perhaps try using a real
version of OMS and not the freemidi oms emulator... (????) - Doubt
seriously that's the problem, though. Perhaps other free-midi users will be
able to comment on the subject. )

-Richard

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Date:    Wed, 8 Jan 1997 07:10:49 EST
From:    Roland Hemming <100414.2220@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject: the if object

Garth Paine wrote:

>if $i1<=1000 then $i2 else out2 $i1

>Can I change the argument for interonset time on the fly

Try:

if $i1<=$i3 then $i2 else out2 $i1 --where $i3 is from the output of your
slider, FYO I believe the if object can have up to 10 arguments

Roland

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Date:    Wed, 8 Jan 1997 10:56:19 -0500
From:    Stephen Kay <70714.1356@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject: if object

>I really don't like the if thing.

>I like to do the "==" like things in the object box with a gate.
>jaime heilpern

Using 1 if object is far more efficient than using 4 others to do the same
thing.  Also, in terms of file size, the example you give, although it does
work, takes up about 16 lines of code when saved as text, whereas the if
object method might take up 3 lines. ;-)

Stephen Kay

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Date:    Wed, 8 Jan 1997 10:45:22 -0600
From:    Peter Gena 
Subject: ISEA97 - Chicago

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ISEA97 Conference Coordinator
School of the Art Institute of Chicago
Department of Art & Technology
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Chicago, IL  60603
Tel: 312/345-3571
Fax: 312/541-8078
Email: isea97@artic.edu
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Date:    Wed, 8 Jan 1997 11:35:50 -0800
From:    Peter Nyboer 
Subject: Re: MAX Digest - 6 Jan 1997 to 7 Jan 1997

Hi

I posted a question about using an AudioMedia card with AiffPlayer on a Mac
IIci.   Thanks for all the response, and I now have Sound Manager talking
to my AudioMedia card.  However, I did want to update the list on what I
found out.   Some folks recommended the SoundDrivers 1.4, but those are
only for system 7.5.   System 7.1 users (like me) need the 1.3.x Sound
Drivers.  I played around a little bit last night, and found that Adobe
Premier (which depends on Sound Manger to tell it where to play) was able
to playback at 16 bit / 44.1 K fine, but AiffPlayer playing back the same
stereo 16/44.1 file sounded kind of miserable-really grainy.   I didn't
have much time to experiment, but I did try increasing the ram cache
without any improvement, so I'm beginning my workday today by asking you
folks if you have had similar problems, and what you did about it.

Thanks

Peter Nyboer
UCLA Extension, Visual Arts Lab
pnyboer@ucla.edu
The man's got $2000 dollars worth of clothes on his behind, and only one
shoe on!

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Date:    Wed, 8 Jan 1997 23:54:09 +0100
From:    Eirik Lie 
Subject: Re: cd control

>Does anyone have any experience controlling multiple
>SCSI CD-ROM players via Max?
>I need to build an installation to run for a month doing
>automated mixing of 6-8 channels of sound material. These could
>be ordinary audio type cd's or ones with AIFF files. Some of my
>students reported problems trying to control more than one
>scsi device.  Perhaps some players have a problem problem with scsi id#?
>Thanks
>Joel Ryan

My experiemce is that not all CD-ROM players respond correctly to all
commands of the Max cd object, my own NEC 2x being one of them. However, I
know at least one installation with three Apple 2x players that has run for
nearly two years without any problems.

Eirik Lie, PB 6820 Elgeseter, N-7002 Trondheim, Norway
Email: eirikli@notam.uio.no   -   Tel +47 73 52 80 30
New CD: http://home.sn.no/home/eiriklie/Visual.html

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Date:    Thu, 9 Jan 1997 00:36:52 +0100
From:    Eirik Lie 
Subject: Slides projector control?

Anyone know of a way to control Kodak Carousel slides projectors with Max?
I am about to make an installation involving two projectors and 3 or 4
channels of sound. Previously I have used a Swedish system from Dataton
called Pax, using a 4-track cassette player and an interface box for the
projectors. However, using a Mac with a couple of CD-ROM players would give
better sound and less wear and tear. Dataton has a dedicated Mac
application (Trax) that is very good at controlling slides projectors, but
I'm not sure how well it handles CD-ROM players. Anyway, I would feel more
at home if I could do the whole thing with Max.
Any ideas?

Eirik Lie, PB 6820 Elgeseter, N-7002 Trondheim, Norway
Email: eirikli@notam.uio.no   -   Tel +47 73 52 80 30
New CD: http://home.sn.no/home/eiriklie/Visual.html

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